Abbott and Milne… When Blue and Green will never be seen!

Abbott and Milne… When Blue and green will never be seen!

English: Christine Milne visiting the Styx for...

Christine Milne visiting the Styx forest in 2004 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

English: Tony Abbott in 2010.

Tony Abbott (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

As a politician and party leader, Christine Milne makes a good ex-teacher!

Now, in the interest of full disclosure I have to say that IMHO The Greens, since the departure of Bob Brown, have become more and more politically irrelevant.

They have taken a “Head in the Sand” approach to most areas of public policy, maintaining an ideological standpoint, to the detriment of their own credibility and, I believe,  relegating themselves to an endangered political species status, and rightly so.

Why, you may ask, am I broaching this subject?

Well, after the budget was released, one of the first interviews that I saw, after the MSM had partially exhausted the usual suspects, was Christine Milne rubbishing the ALP for some of their budget measures, and calling on Tony Abbott to reinstate funding for environmental programs… WTF?

The questions that I found myself asking were;images

  • “Has she not been listening to the rhetoric coming out of the LNP?”
  • “Has she not heard about their ‘Direct Action Plan’?”
  • “Was she not listening when Abbott mentioned, once or twice, that he would repeal the carbon price?”
  • “Why would Tony Abbott put any money into something that he plainly doesn’t believe in, when he won’t even spend money on such luxuries as schools?”

These are only a few of the clues that most would have recognised as indicators of the LNPs intent when it comes to expenditure, or lack thereof, as well as support for AGW and as a consequence renewables, which was the main thrust of her appeal to the right wing nut job!

Then after Abbott’s, so called, budget reply speech, she declared that Abbott was even

The real Noddy

The real Noddy

worse than Gillard, and we should all vote Greens to thwart the LNP in the Senate.

Which prompted another round of… WTF?

Followed by more questions like;

  • “Was she not listening when Abbott said that he would call a double dissolution if he was not allowed to do what he wants?”
  • “Is she so deluded that she thinks that she will get a better response and be taken more seriously by Abbott than Gillard has?”
  • “Can she really be that politically naive?”

The only conclusion that I could come to is that she is suffering from delusions of grandeur, believing that somehow Abbott will be in awe of her extreme left wing ideologies, and will buckle under the indisputable logic of her arguments and feminine wiles!    WTF?

So my advice to Christine Milne, for what it’s worth, is;

If you really think that you have some hope of concession from the LNP who are as far right as you are left, then you are every bit as delusional as Abbott and his LNP, and in need of serious professional help.

Wake up and come into the world of political reality, and stop shitting on the only major party that will give you a fair hearing, be prepared to compromise on some policy issues and has a belief in CC.

You have acknowledged that Abbott is worse than Gillard, which is the understatement of the century, but you have to realise that your only hope of any long term political relevance is to show an ability to compromise on your ideologies for the greater good, and support the ALP as much as possible, as they are the only ones that will try to work with you.

Make no mistake, Abbott and Milne… When Blue and Green will never be seen!

He only does LIES

NO, HE ONLY DOES LIES!

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33 Responses to Abbott and Milne… When Blue and Green will never be seen!

  1. Min says:

    Ts, you have expressed some of my misgivings about the Greens precisely. As they run down Labor, the thought comes to mind, do they really believe that by pandering to Abbott that he might show some gratitude.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Min, thanks for your comment 😀 and the “like” 😎

      Yes, she really seems to think that her belief in their own ideologies will win the day, completely ignoring the political realities 😦

      Cheers 😀

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  2. Valentine says:

    What a load of crap. After Labor’s efforts in asking Liberals to assist them to abuse human rights this week, most of the remaining Labor-left voters will now vote Greens. Blind Freddie could see they are not in a position to win an election.

    Your blog says “This is a proudly Australian , left wing site, dedicated to satirical political poetry”. I can only assume this particular musing is satirical? It certainly isn’t left-wing, but then it’s not poetry either. You cannot in all seriousness still support Labor and say you are proudly left-wing at the same time? My only regret is that I must give preferences to either Labor or Liberals, so somewhere down the line my vote will go to Labor, who are now to the right of anywhere that John Howard ever went.

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  3. Truth Seeker says:

    Valentine, welcome to my site 😀 and thanks for your comment.

    Sadly there are many one eyed greens voters who, like you, cannot see the wood for the trees.

    I am a proudly Australian left wing supporter, but I do NOT support the radical left (Greens) any more than I support the rabid right, I am however a political realist to the point where I know that the greens have shot themselves in both feet by their inflexible attitude to policy.

    That doesn’t mean that I agree with everything the ALP do, because I don’t, but I do know that they have shown a willingness to compromise while the greens have been completely intractable when it comes to compromise and playing the political game, and as a result have become largely irrelevant IMHO. I do believe that unless they learn how to play the game, they will go down the same path that Meg Lees took the Democrats down, and Christine Milne has taken the greens a number of steps in that direction already.

    If you want left wing satirical poetry there is plenty to choose from, but I think you will still be disappointed, as you will find no support for the Greens in any of them.

    If you seriously believe that the ALP are further right than Howard, then you are also sadly deluded, but the very fact that you concede that your preferences will go to Labor says that you don’t actually believe that statement as that would make Gillard as bad as Abbott, which she clearly is not, which even Milne conceded.

    I am also not saying that the ALP haven’t moved to the right, because they clearly have, but they are still light years ahead of the opposition, and the only real option for this county’s future.

    The greens will only ever be, at best, a minor party and should start acting as such, and not get so overawed by their own importance, and they may just get the opportunity to make a real difference, but under Milne I don’t think they can 😦

    Cheers 😀

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  4. Valentine says:

    I voted for Labor for 36 years. They sold out. I will not condone their human rights abuses and I condemn those who do condone them. I’m what Labor used to be. Greens are not particularly radical left, they are mostly what Labor used to be as well. You criticised Greens for “maintaining an ideological standpoint”, well bloody hell, someone has to maintain some integrity around here!

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Valentine, I do not vote for or against a party on the basis of one policy position, and as far as asylum seeker policy I feel that the greens policy is just as unworkable due to the fact that we do live on an island, and their on shore processing policy has not and will not work.

      As I alluded to, if they were prepared to compromise in the short term the long term outcomes may have been much better for everyone, but they weren’t.

      Cheers 😀

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  5. Valentine says:

    I don’t vote for or against a party on the basis of one policy position either. The abuses are numerous, as are the financial sell-outs and pandering to big business and mining companies.

    You appear to not know what Green’s asylum seeker policy is and see only one small part of it. I’ve found that contempt prior to investigation is common among people who condemn Greens.

    Anyway, I’ve had enough talking to you, I am not coping at all well with people who defend latter-day Labor right now. I am incredibly angry at what they have done to my party and the past week has made it much worse. My father was a union leader and we had Bob Hawke, Jim Cairns and such like people in my home when I was a little girl. He fought all his life to look after people and he’d be rolling in his grave at what they have done.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Valentine, like it or not we have a two party system, and there is a much better chance of getting fair and equitable policy from the ALP than the LNP.
      And I am willing to bet that you will be a bloody site more angry if Abbott gets in, as PMJG will look like a saint by comparison.

      Don’t be blinded by ideology the way the greens are 😦

      Cheers 😀

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  6. kate ahearne says:

    Hi Truthie,
    Your patience is extraordinary, but mine with V, is worn out. I don’t suppose her real name is Marilyn, is it?
    Anyway, mate, I’m so glad you have attended to this question. It’s strange in this time of Global Scariness, that the Greens should find themselves becoming less and less relevant, and yet unwilling to do a damn thing about it. (Or perhaps, tragically, they’re not finding any such thing?)
    If I were to come clean, I’d have to admit that I’ve voted the Greens first for quite a few years now, but I won’t be doing that again – it’s a luxury I can no longer afford, and no longer like the taste of, either.
    My theory about them is very close to yours – they just won’t compromise. They don’t understand that one step forward, even though it’s not the three that you might be demanding, is better than any steps backwards.
    PS. If WTF means what I think it means, you’re swearing a lot lately!

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Kate, thanks for your comment 😀 and I did consider that myself 😯

      I have heard similar sentiments from a number of ex green supporters, and I think you summed it up perfectly when you said “It’s a luxury I can no longer afford, and no longer like the taste of, either.” 😎

      As far as my WTF is concerned, it can mean the traditional, or in my case a term that I heard relating to CSG Fracking, which gave me a good laugh, and then I heard it repeated on ‘The Big Bang Theory’ “What The Frack” 😀

      The truth is these hypocrites including the MSM and the LNP would make a saint swear, but for the sake of decorum we will say that WTF stands for the CSG option. 😀

      Cheers 😀

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      • Truth Seeker says:

        Kate, correction, I saw it as a tweet on QandA when some right wing apologist was trying to explain how fracking was not causing damage to the environment or some such thing 😆

        cracked me up 😀

        Cheers 😀

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  7. kate ahearne says:

    Thanks, Truthie, but I’m an old-fashioned girl. Give me TF Much, and I know where I am. Meanwhile, yes, I’ve just come across the term, ‘fracking’ myself in recent days – I’m off to learn more.

    Love your work, and the way you stick at it and keep turning up with something sensible, and usually funny. Ya gotta larf.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Thanks for that Kate 😀 and yes, ya gotta larf 😆

      Maybe if the nut jobs, both left and right, could just “Larf” at themselves a bit, and didn’t take themselves so seriously they and we all would be much better off 😀

      Cheers 😀 😆 😎

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  8. kate ahearne says:

    You’re right, of course, TS. It’s the idea that they’re laughing at US that’s gnawing at my gizzards. and P…ing me off. But not for long. I’m a member of a wonderful community now, thanks to you and so many others like you, and I intend to enjoy the last laugh.
    Have you noticed the Open Thread on Independent Australia? http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/independent-australia-journal/ia-open-thread-17-may-2013/#commentspost

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Kate, sorry I couldn’t reply last night, but sleep beckoned 😦

      Yes indeed, there are many good people like yourself now making themselves heard through the fighting fifth and having a bit of fun along the way, and I think that is what those like Murdoch and Rinenart are so scared of, cos they can’t control it.

      For them it’s all about money and power, and what’s in their own self interest.

      Yes I did read your comment on the open thread, and was going to write my own, but have been pretty tied up still with the work going in here and with my sister.

      Had a good morning out yesterday at Eumundi markets, while the builder laid a couple of slabs at home.

      Heard some very good buskers, and saw some unusual stuff, it’s still a great market 😀

      Cheers 😀

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  9. kate ahearne says:

    Good on you, Truthie. I had a little nap myself. The builder and your sister’s visit haven’t knocked you out of the ring, apparently. Well done you. Don’t bother with a reply to me this time, much as I enjoy talking with you – have another cup of tea instead, and keep your energies up.
    And a word or two further on the Greens – God help the planet, if this is the best they can do. Back to the drawing board, them!

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  10. cornlegend says:

    Truthseeker.
    I always thought Bob Brown was a pretty decent human being.
    I was one of those, years ago, who would vote Labor ,and as a safety, Greens, in the Senate.
    That changed.
    Christine Milne fails the Leader Test.
    The Greens, unfortunately, don’t seem to accept, that at times compromise is necessary.
    I have been gobsmacked at the number of times, when Gillard is under attack by MSM, over some issue, that the first to put the boot in has been Milne..
    If Milne is under some misguided idea that they will be able to negotiate ANYTHING with the LNP, then, I”m afraid they will go the way of the Democrats {remember them ?]
    It’s pretty easy for a minority party, to be idealistic.
    They know they will never govern.
    When they gave their support, to form a minority Labor government, they should have done just that, supported.
    Oakeshott and Windsor, overall have kept the agreement.
    Whether we like it or not, we are 2 party Joint.
    We therefore have to figure out where our vote is going to end up.
    As Valentine mentioned, some of the old ALP , Jim Cairns, Tom Uren , Gough, etc.
    I’ve met them too.
    And what I know of them, hell would freeze over before Abbott ever got their vote.

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  11. Joy Cooper says:

    Do agree with you, wholeheartedly, Truth Seeker, about the current lot of Greens & have thought Christine Milne was doing to the Greens that which Meg Lees did to the Democrats. In both instances they seemed to have an inflated sense of their respective party’s importance in the scheme of things political. Meg Lees became the Liberal’s lap dog who was only too happy to, figuratively, roll over & let Costello tickle her tummy. Christine seems to be doing the same by joining in the conservative’s chorus & castigating Labor’s every move.

    Is it a coincidence that both were high school teachers seemingly of the old fashioned schoolmarm ilk? You know the type, who thought they knew what was best for us & “eat your spinach whether you like it or not”. 😆

    Incidentally, here is a quote from Christine Milne’s wiki bio. “She oversaw a loose alliance between the Greens and Liberals after the 1996 general election.” This was after she took over as leader of the Tassie Greens when Bob Brown went to Canberra. She must remember the Federal LNP now is a totally different animal to the one she dealt with in Tasmania years ago. Ironically, this alliance eventually led to her losing her seat due to changes in the structure of the House of Assembly.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Joy, thanks for your comment 😀

      Yes, she seems to be playing a very silly game, focusing on all the wrong things, and stands a real possibility of her party becoming another political Dodo 😦

      Cheers 😀

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  12. 2gravel says:

    Truth Seeker
    I do love your pome’s, but your straight writing give more grist for the mill. Thank you. 🙂

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  13. TS, well said once again.
    I too have been wondering WTF is Christine Milne trying to do. I’m not a black & white thinker, don’t judge too harshly & look for what’s hidden in the grey areas. Is she playing a game with the people she thinks support her? There are many of us who like Kate have voted Green/ALP or the other way around for quite a few years now. But I certainly have got warning bells going off in my head when I see her biting the hand that will feed her especially when it is starting to sound as though she’s trying to tease TA into believing that she could be a willing ally. Is that the game she is playing?
    I think that I need to consult with a person (greenie) who I respect & start up a conversation to find out his thoughts. Might be able to shed a bit more light on where the Greens are going with all of this.
    In the mean time, we all just need to keep up the good fight. I don’t know about you, but the opposition are starting to sound a bit desperate & looking like the proverbial animal caught in the glare of the headlights. You know what happens to them.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Sandra, thanks for your comment, 😀 and support 😎

      I have read many comments from greens voters who echo the sentiments of Kate, and then you hear from those like Valentine who just blindly stick to the party line and declare that it’s all crap, and they are the only party that knows what they’re doing (my paraphrase) 😯

      All I know is that I watched the Democrats disintegrate at the hands of Meg Lees, and Milne seems hell bent on taking the same path to political oblivion 😦

      I also agree that the LNP and Abbott in particular are starting to come across as shrill and more and more hysterical in their claims 😯

      Keep up the good work, and spreading the word 😀

      We Will prevail 😀

      Cheers 😀

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  14. khtagh says:

    Truthie

    Milne is the greens version of Meg Lees, & will have the same political outcome. I always remember the Meg Lees cheesy smile when shaking Howard’s hand after passing the GST, the look in Howard eyes were, ‘your a mug & just committed political suicide’. Milne is going to do the same, she will wipe the greens out unfortunately.

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  15. jane says:

    TS, great post hitting the nail on the head as usual.

    I definitely agree with you wrt Milne. When Bob Brown was leader of the Greens and Milne opened her mouth to change feet, I thought she was a bad advocate for the Greens.

    And the thought has crossed my mind that she is a stooge for the Liars and frankly nothing she’s done since assuming leadership of the Greens has changed that opinion.

    The Greens were cock-a-hoop after the last election, but I’m not so sure their vote will improve this election. I suspect it may go backwards, because of their refusal to compromise on any of their positions and their smug, holier than thou attitude, which may be more down to Milne than the other party members.

    I also think Milne is trying to attract votes from the right wing and so is constantly sending mixed messages to the public.

    Like you, I think she is seriously deluded if she believes the Liars will ever be interested in any sort of working arrangement with the Greens.

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    • Joy Cooper says:

      Agree fully with you Jane. As I previously mentioned, Milne already had aligned herself with the Liberals when leader of the Tassie Greens & she ended up losing her seat. So that went well for her but she doesn’t seemed to have learnt her lesson. Think she is rather like a little mini terrier who thinks its importance is such it can order the wolfhounds about.

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  16. Truth Seeker says:

    Jane, thanks for your comment 😎 and kind words 😀

    Yes Bob Brown was a much more astute politician, and certainly had a level of integrity in his positions whereas Milne seems to think that she can play both ends against the middle and come out the winner, and I get the feeling that her ideological stands will come back to bite her and their numbers will go down at this election. 😦

    It certainly appears as though, when a minor party gets their hands on the balance of power, it goes straight to their heads and stops them from thinking clearly, as they get overawed by their own importance! 😯

    When she first started playing her games, I had the discussion with a number of green supporters stating that my firm belief was that 10% of something was better than 100% of nothing, and let’s face it, if they had been prepared to compromise with Rudd on his ETS, the so called “Carbon Tax” would have been a non event.

    And likewise with the Asylum Seeker Policy and the Malaysian Solution, they may have been able to achieve some better outcomes instead of the mess that we have now thanks to them and the LNP.

    Complete Idiots 😯

    Cheers 😀

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  17. jock says:

    I have never been a member of the labour party but consider myself a socialist. I have always voted labour first and in recent elections given my preferences to the greens. But this term I cannot fathom the greens continual biting of the hand that feeds them. I was never keen on Bob Hawk but agree with his idea of consensus. If the greens had given an inch they would have been able to acheive who knows what instead of constantly throwing obstacles in Rudd and Gillard’s paths.
    I live in Rob Oakeshott’s electrate. We were redistrubed into his area at the last election where he got my vote and will again if he stands. I don’t agree with all his policies but he has a genuine interest in the area unlike the nationals who think the regions are there private property and never did anything useful in their lives. By sensable discussion and negotiation Rob has acheived much for the area and the nation. More power to him and Tony Windsor, both of whom had early associations with the nationals but saw through them and went independent. The greens have consigned themselves to eternal fringe politics. They’ll not get my preferences again.
    Keep up the good articles and poems. You brighten up my mornings and give me hope.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Jock, thanks for your comment 😎 and support 😀 I appreciate it.

      Yes, it seems that the independents deal much better with holding a balance of power than minor party’s do, and Oakeshott has acquitted himself pretty well over all, although, like you I don’t agree with everything he stands for, and I was a bit pissed when he voted against the Media Reform legislation, as even incomplete legislation would have been better than none to put Murdoch in his place, and could have been amended later, although I didn’t see much wrong with what was proposed.

      I have no problem with decent independents like Oakeshott and Windsor having the balance of power, as they do seem to have a level of integrity sadly missing in some in the major party’s.

      Although I do think the LNP are over endowed in the lack of integrity department. 😯

      Thanks again mate 😀

      Cheers 😀 😎

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