So Tony, where do you go from here?

So Tony, where do you go from here?

English: Tony Abbott in 2010.

Tony Abbott. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

With K Rudd’s new, hard line, asylum seeker policy still ringing in his ears, the Abbott must be spitting chips, as all he can claim now is that his airy fairy “Turn back the boats” alleged policy, and TPV’s are a better option than a policy that might actually work, or that we can’t trust Rudd to implement it.

Now I can already hear some screaming FOUL, and I’m sure that Abbott will be seething.

The problem that he has is that his “policy” is based on “We did it before, so we can do it again!”, completely ignoring the facts:

  1. Howard tried to turn around approximately 11 boats, and was “successful on 4 occasions, at a time when the numbers of refugees around the world were falling, to very low levels.
  2. Since then, there has been a large number of major conflicts, including Iraq, which Howard and the coalition of the willing were responsible for, all of which have added millions of displaced people to the numbers seeking asylum.
  3. As we saw only a few days ago, even with two vessels in close proximity, these overloaded fishing boats can easily capsize, with the resultant loss of life.
  4. We have also seen boats set on fire, scuttled, and disabled, as well as women and children in the water and needing to be rescued.r502984_2670112gallery_christmasisland4-600x400
  5. Even supposing that he can get a boat back near Indonesian territorial waters, the “Out of sight out of mind” mentality won’t wash, as if the asylum seekers or the crew head back towards Australia, or just sit there refusing to use the fuel provided to take them back, how long do we tie up an Australian vessel to watch one small boat in a vast ocean? And how much will that cost?
  6. And if said boat does slip back out into international waters and then runs out of fuel, or starts to sink, aren’t we back to square one, where we have an obligation to go to help a boat in distressBoat-380x237
  7. How many Naval and Customs boats do we tie up looking for, chasing and trying to turn around the myriad of potential asylum seeker boats?

Then there are the TPV’s, which most experts agree were an abject failure, due to the fact that they encourage women and children to get on boats as a result of the no family reunion clause attached to them.

So now we come to Rudd’s PNG solution, which in many ways is a bigger, better version of the Malaysian Solution, with no swap arrangement to criticise, and no restriction on the number to be taken by PNG.

The one thing that it does have, is a major deterrent factor for those considering the people smugglers option, as there is no option now for settlement in Australia if you come via the Indonesian people smugglers.

The greens are already outraged, which was always going to be the case, but IMHO they failed the test of being a responsible and conciliatory mainstream party, when they voted with Abbott to deny the Malaysian Solution a chance, and in so doing, became complicit and culpable along with Abbott in causing the extreme situation that we now find ourselves in.

Their outrage now smacks of immense hypocrisy, and crocodile tears, as they voted to be a part of the current problem instead of trying to be a part of the solution.

Now in a perfect world, it would be all love, peace and mung beans, with no wars, and no need for anyone to seek asylum, but sadly that’s not the case.

Likewise, if there was a dirty big bridge from the top end of Aus to Indonesia, I would say fine, form an orderly cue, and we can look to on-shore processing.

But there isn’t!

We are an island, and without a bridge, the only options to get “ON SHORE” is to fly, swim or come by boat.

And the truth is that as long as there are people who want to find a better life in this

Refugees from Sudan's Darfur Region

Refugees from Sudan’s Darfur Region (Photo credit: Government Press Office (GPO))

great country, there will be people who are prepared to profit from that situation, and if it means risking lives for the sake of profits, then so be it.

The LNP playing politics with the lives of these people, by spouting their slogans, without any intention of allowing the government to try to fix the problem, is an appalling display of gutter politics, and should be roundly condemned.

And likewise, the greens refusing to compromise their ideological stand for the sake of trying to save lives is truly despicable and should also be roundly condemned.

With Australia having one of the strongest and best performing economies in the developed world, and so many displaced people looking for safe refuge, it is only natural that a proportion of those displaced would try for a better life here.

Refugees from Sudan's Darfur Region

Refugees from Sudan’s Darfur Region (Photo credit: Government Press Office (GPO))

So, is Rudd’s PNG solution perfect?

No, it’ far from a perfect solution, but IMHO it’s the best option available to;

  1. Slow down, and eventually stop the trade in people smuggling.
  2. Curb the number of men, women and children drowning at sea.
  3. Stop unscrupulous and self interested politicians (LNP I’m looking at you!)  from using the plight of refugees and particularly those dying, as a political football.
  4. In the longer term, return the debate from slogans and fear mongering to one of finding real solutions for a very real problem.
  5. Return the Australian psyche to one of care and compassion for our fellow man, instead of the hysterical red neck rhetoric that has so pervaded our thinking, since the reign of “Little” Johnny Howard.
  6. Increase our intake of genuine refugees, in a safe, orderly and HUMANE fashion.

So I believe that we should all “Stop the hysteria”, and get behind this plan.

The issue of people dying at sea, as a result of people smuggling, will always be an emotive one, and draw out the worst of gutter politics, but as we try to move to address that issue, the focus hopefully will move back to dealing with the real issues of asylum seekers, and over time, redirect the funds available, to better resettlement programs for Australia and our region.

So Mr Abbott, do you really want to stop the boats?

Do you really give a crap about stopping people dying at sea?

Or is it still all about the politics?

And the big question for Abbott is;

“So Tony, where do you go from here?”


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32 Responses to So Tony, where do you go from here?

  1. kate ahearne says:

    Good morning, Truthie. What a busy beaver you are. This is all very well said. The ‘imperfections’ will become apparent as the details emerge, I’m thoroughly disgusted with the Greens about this – also remarks from Christine Milne on ABC radio this morning about the Nauru riots – blaming the government. How the gov can be responsible for the behavior of the rioters beats me. And, quite frankly, their behavior is not helping their cause. How many of us really want people coming here who behave like this? Their frustration is understandable, but stand-over tactics are not.


  2. lotsofgreenrust says:

    You seem to have forgotten the fact that the Malaysian ‘solution’ was struck down by the courts.

    Plus, the numbers involved were far too small to be any real solution at all.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      lotsofgreenrust, welcome to my site 😀 and thanks for your comment,

      No I haven’t forgotten that it was struck down by the courts, it was the legislation to change the laws that was rejected by the LNP and the greens which I was referring to, which would have made it possible.

      If it had of been implemented, when it was proposed, the 800 may well have been enough to deter the people smugglers, but when it was rejected the flood gates were opened. 😯

      Now the problem is much worse, and needs a much bigger solution.

      We need to give this a go! 😀

      Cheers 😀


  3. bilko says:

    we seem to be like minded on this subject it is a global problem and eventually will need a global solution but the noise from the fiberals drowns out any sensible discussion.

    After Labor win the election with IMHO about 4-5 seat majority followed by massive changes in the fiberal front bench then maybe sensible discussion can commence


    • Truth Seeker says:

      Bilko, thanks for your comment 😎 and support 😀

      You are dead right, it is a global problem, and yes, there are no easy solutions, but we should at least try, and if this PNG solution helps to stop people dying at sea for the sake of profits for a few unscrupulous smugglers, then i’m all in favour of it. 😀

      And if it shows Abbott up for the power hungry hypocrite that he is, then again I’m in favour 😀

      And yes a major change in the LNP front benches will be a more than welcome 😀

      Cheers 😀


  4. cornlegend says:

    I bloody good article.
    I think you nailed it.
    good to see the Indonesians are beginning to pull their weight also
    The Indonesian government has agreed to prime minister Kevin Rudd’s request to make it harder for Iranians to enter the country in a move that could slow the transit of asylum seekers planning to board boats bound for Australia.
    All the while those poor wretched souls sit in the filth and poverty of the Sudan, with little or no hope, I will oppose boats.
    Poor bastards, little shelter,food or water, ,there for years and years.
    Ever ytime I read of a boat person handing over $10,000 to a smuggler, I picture what that $10,000 could do in the Sudan or one of the other hell hole UNHCR camps.
    These poor buggers, wouldn’t know what medical aid is.
    The Nauru refugees burnt down a brand new Medical facility last night.
    Sorry, my sympathies don’t lie with the boat people.
    It’s with those with no hope, and currently no chance, of getting resettled in Australia.
    Rudd is considering increasing our intake to 27,000.
    I hope it’s targetted to this region

    And I too have had a gut full of the Greens .

    The new directive from Indonesian justice minister Amir Syamsuddin to deny Iranians the right to buy temporary visas upon arrival addresses an issue raised in recent talks with Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      Cornie, thanks mate 😀 and yes, as I said before there should also be legislation passed that anyone, regardless of their status (refugee or not) should be rewarded for any type of violent protest or behaviour, with a one way ticket back to where they came from… end of story! 😯

      They should at least respect the fact that they are so much better off than those in the Sudan, or in the camps on the border of Syria and act appropriately. 😉

      Yes I saw the iranian visa issue discussed yesterday, and good on them 😀

      Cheers mate 😀


  5. Jason says:

    Well said Truth Seeker! pretty much said what I’ve been thinking.


  6. Fed up says:

    “You seem to have forgotten the fact that the Malaysian ‘solution’ was struck down by the courts.”

    No one has forgot this. Courts often shoot down government actions. Governments then take new stagflation into parliament, to over come the courts concerns. This occurred but Abbott and the Greens voted it down.

    So your commune is immaterial. The courts also struck down much of what Howard had in place. Problem there, it was difficult for new legislation to overcome the concerns. What was at stake, was a person’s universal right for access to the judiciary system.


  7. bundysmum says:

    Well said Truth Seeker, I agree 100%. I voted for the Greens at the last election but I will not this time,I’ve had a gutfull of the sanctimonious behaviour of SHY and Milne .They stand in front of the cameras ranting on while people are drowning, it is obscene.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      Bundysmum, welcome, 😀 and thanks for your comment 😎

      I’m with you , Milne and SHY are monumental hypocrites, and obscene is exactly the right word to describe their attitude. 😀

      Good on you for your clear thinking 😎 and thoughtful comment 😀

      Cheers 😀


  8. brickbob says:

    I think the greens should stop mixing magic mushrooms in with their mung beans and get back to reality. it is obvious they are dog whistling to Labor voters to give their first preference to them in the Senate and to a lesser extent the lower house as well. They should all go down to Tasmania,find the tallest tree they can and climb to the top and stay there for a week and have a good think about things as they are not the same party they once were.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      brickbob, thanks for your comment 😎

      Yes they seem to have become overawed by their own importance, and lost sight of the bigger picture 😦

      They need to reassess their positions before they become a political irrelevance 😯 following in the footsteps of Meg Lees and the Democrats 😦

      Cheers 😀


  9. jock says:

    Truthie sorry for pre-empting you yesterday but you say it much better anyway. Great minds think alike. As we Scots say; wha’s like us, dam few, an’ their a’ died.
    The greens are irrelevant and rabbott wants to pull up the drawbridge ( this is national not international business) imagine him at a G20. Like all good capitalists he’s happy for big business and the rich to operate multinationally but the poor bastards at the bottom get screwed every time whether its sudanese refugees are the very bottom of the pile or bogan westies in Sydney. Rudd needs to spruik the humanitarian side of his policy.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      Morning Jock, 😀 there are quite a few of us that are thinking the same way 😀

      Yes, Abbott would be a joke on the world stage, and make us a laughingstock 😦

      I wouldn’t want him representing us at a clowns convention :shock much less as PM of this great country :mrgreen:

      Yes from what i have heard, he’s wanting to increase the intake to 27,000 which is a good thing.

      Cheers 😀


  10. Great post, Truthey? 🙂


  11. orangefox says:

    Summed up nicely but I have one complaint.
    ‘In a perfect world it would all be peace love and mung beans’.
    I hate mung beans! Especially the sprouted type and they’re bloody hard to eat raw! I know people who have broken their tooth on these sprouts when they don’t sprout properly.
    So I offer a few alternative suggestions.
    In a perfect world it would all be peace love and sex.
    In a perfect world it would all be peace love and sharing.
    In a perfect world it would all be peace love and deep house music.
    In a perfect world it would all be peace love and no vested interests.
    And if you must insist on the hippy angle,
    In a perfect world it would all be peace love and alfalfa sprouts.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      orangefox, thanks for that 😆 and a good chuckle 😀

      Yes it was a throw back to my miss spent youth, but I agree entirely, as I’m not a fan of mung beans either, and I think every one of your options are more palatable 😀

      Cheers 😀


  12. orangefox says:

    Truthseeker, if you are feeling like revisiting your miss spent youth you may want to head to Nimbin.
    It was featured on that ABC show called ‘Shitsville Express’.
    If you’re not familiar with the series it’s about these young politicians that travel around Australia addressing various problem issues, getting peoples perspectives, attitudes, and facts on them and how to solve them.
    Quite interesting.
    The Nimbin visit was quite hilarious as they set up a stand to promote Nuclear Energy and see what the reaction would be. This segment was designed to be a bit light hearted as most of the other segments are serious.
    Needless to say some of the ‘unusual’ folk giving their ‘unusual’ opinions and ideas was rather entertaining.
    I must pay the place a visit some time.


    • Truth Seeker says:

      orangefox, yes, it’s an interesting place 😀

      We went there about five years ago, and it was certainly worth the trip, although it is a bit out of the way. 😯

      The Nimbin museum is a bit of a walk down memory lane, and Marijuana Embassy is interesting 😀 but it’s not what it was in it’s hay day 😦 but if you get the chance, it’s a good day out if you’re staying around Coffs for a few days, as we were. 😀

      Cheers 😀


  13. patriciawa says:

    Thanks TS. Well written argument on a difficult issue.


  14. cornlegend says:

    If they bring this lot here, I will be out protesting.
    Refugee processing has been halted on Nauru after riots caused an estimated $60 million in damage, destroyed 80 per cent of the detention centre
    Eighty per cent of the centre has been destroyed, with only the kitchen and recreation buildings standing. Accommodation blocks designed to hold up to 616 people were burnt to the ground, as were office blocks. A dining room and health centre were also destroyed.
    All 550 asylum seekers will now have to sleep in tents and marquees until replacement facilities can be built. Food stocks are also believed to have been destroyed at the camp


    • Truth Seeker says:

      Cornie, I’m with you mate, 😀 as far as I’m concerned there should be no further processing of anyone involved, they should be tried for their involvement, and if found guilty, they should be put on the first plane back to where they came from 😯

      We do not need, nor want people of that character, who respond with violence and mindless destruction to be re-settled here! 😯

      Heard the minister stating on “Insiders” this morning, that he has the powers to reject people like that, and he SHOULD do it.

      And if those remaining don’t like it, they know who to blame, and not to do it again. 😀

      Cheers 😀


  15. cornlegend says:

    Our friend Marilyn has launched off again over at IA.
    I know I shouldn’t but just feel in the mood for a bit of baiting 😀


    • Truth Seeker says:

      Cornie, yes well I am currently writing a follow up piece from the last one, which I’m sure she wouldn’t be happy about either 😀

      But in the mean time, I am sure we can rely on the cornLEGEND, to do her slowly 😀 and not in a good way 😳

      So have fun mate, and I’ll pop over there later and see how you’ve faired 😀

      Cheers 😀


  16. Truth Seeker says:

    Just posted a follow up to this post:

    “PNG… What will be the consequences for Abbott and Milne?”

    Cheers 😀



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