Morrison’s “Boats R us”… WTF?
While the LNP are looking to cut spending on such frivolous public service areas as;
- Public education.
- Public health.
- Science and research.
- Social security.
- Overseas aid.
etc etc, they are apparently happy to spend… well who knows how much on “Operation Sovereign Borders”, and their obsession with boats? And yet more millions of dollars on another enquiry (the first eight, or so, just weren’t enough?) into what was (despite the lies and rhetoric from the LNP and Murdoch press) essentially a successful part of the stimulus package. A scheme that actually saw a drop in the number of industry related fatalities compared with previous years.
But I digress 😀
HELLO SAILOR?
Anyhoo, what is this “governments” (and I use the term with tongue firmly planted in cheek 😯 ) problem with boats?
To refresh our collective memories, and roughly in chronological order, they wanted/want;
- To “Stop the boats”.
- To “Tow back the boats”.
- To “Turn back the boats”… Oh yeah, when it’s safe to do so.
- To “Buy back boats”.
- To “Give away boats”
- To look like they’re actually doing something… by employing more of our boats?
- According to Fairfax, the next one is to be…wait for it … “Swap the boats”? WTF?
Following on from #7, we are told that they may be considering buying nice shiny new, powered life boats, to replace the leaky and generally unseaworthy craft, that the people smugglers are currently employing… W…T…F? 🙄
So, if in fact there is a plan… 😆 (remember this is the LNP were talking about) 😆 what does it entail?
Morrison’s Water Taxi
- Do they buy them for our navy and coastguard, to use to become a “Taxi” service back to indonesia? (I thought that they weren’t going to be a “Taxi service? WTF?) Or;
- Do they buy them to transfer the asylum seekers to, and then send them on their merry way, in a boat much more likely to do the trip numerous times, if they don’t get caught again, meanwhile further polluting the oceans with scuttled fishing boats, or towing them home to re-sell? 😆
Morrison’s Used Boats R Us
Now, if they go for the first option, as far as I can see they may well hit a few more funding blowouts, logistical speed bumps and the same massive road block that they are currently up against, as;
- The cost of buying and maintaining powered lifeboats would not be covered in Hockey’s MYEFO, so would have to go on that dastardly “Credit card” 😯 .
- These boats would have to be big enough to carry up to around two hundred people safely, unless they send them out in pairs… or more?
- Our sailors lives will be put at risk while crewing these boats, full of scared and angry people who’ve just been taken off a boat that they paid good money to be on, that could have potentially killed them, and put on a boat that is more likely to get them to Australia… if it was their boat, which was their gaol in the first place… and what they paid for?
- These boats will be Australian vessels, in Indonesian territorial waters… Mmmm 😉 ?
- Unless they plan to find a deserted indonesian island or coastal area, to dump the asylum seekers on, they will need Indonesia on board with a policy that they have already, repeatedly condemned.
If they go for option 2, we will;
- Spend a fortune on boats, which will prove a real bonus for Indonesian fishermen, who will be able to illegally fish in our waters much more safely, or people smugglers, who will be able to charge more for a trip on a boat that’s less likely… to sink. 😯
- Probably see the People smugglers setting up something akin to a shuttle service to Australia, in their shiny new boats, with bookings made at travel agents, 😯
- See many Indonesian fishermen cuing up to take part in the Australian “governments” (Read “Idiots”) boat swap deal. 😛
Now I know that some of my scenarios might seem a bit… over the top, (surely not? 😯 ) but then there are no surprises with the LNP, except that, for a party that’s diametrically opposed to government owned enterprise, it may well be that the biggest growth industry, and one of the few that will be open for business in 2014 will be the latest publicly owned industry of;
“Morrison’s Boats R us”… WTF? 😯
Truth Seekers Musings 
Truthie,
Posted this a while ago on Cornie’s page.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/08/lifeboat-plan-to-ship-asylum-seekers-back-to-indonesia-reports
They’re obviously going to make up for the reasonably sane Xmas period.
I can’t wait for the movie to be released. Or better still the Play Station game “Ratshit and Clunk – Escape from Reality”
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Olddavey, thanks for your comment 😆
That sounds like a game I might enjoy 😀
Cheers 😀
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The LNP has a major problem with asylum seeker policy and apart from ‘we will do what Howard did’ and this under totally different circumstances, everything else they have come up with is a satirists dream.
LNP policy which is nothing more than that prick Rudd’s policy is supposed to one, ‘stop the boats’ and two have concentration camps so bad that there is a high rate of return to country of origin.
The fact is that the boats have slowed not stopped. A large part of the slowdown is weather related, the Monsoon season has always seen a large reduction in boat arrivals so it will be interesting to see what happens in a month or two.
Despite the horrendous conditions in the offshore concentration camps the return rate is around 1.5%. Quite simply no matter how bad we make it the alternative for most of the people seeking asylum is far worse.
Another factor is that there are 10,000 asylum seekers registered with the UNHCR in Indonesia and Malaysia (only 600 were processed in 2012) and the unregistered number is estimated to be between another 10 -15,000. Indonesia and Malaysia in particular want them gone because for many the money is running out.
Every asylum seeker that arrives costs us $600,000 a year in offshore detention and as more arrive it is becoming a logistical nightmare. In Nauru alone there are 60 shipping containers of bottled water each month, all food has to be shipped in and there are no port facilities. Everything has to be offloaded onto to tenders and these cannot operate in bad conditions. The same applies for Manus Island and Christmas Island except they have wharves for the ships to tie up to. Manus has 1,200 detainees and Christmas Island 2,200 detainees compared to 850 on Nauru.
Despite what Morrison says they are really stretched as far as the ability to increase numbers goes by the supply logistics. Christmas Island also has to supply the customs and naval boats and personnel just to complicate matters even further.
Morrison and company are completely out of their depth is seems three word slogans just don’t translate into effective policy. This latest piece of lunacy is gold but not quite as good as the by the boats plan. An Indonesian fisherman when asked what he thought about it was quite excited about the opportunity to be able to buy a new boat with the proceeds and referred to our revered leader as ‘Bodah’ which I am told loosely translates as ‘wooden headed fuckwit’.
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That will keep me awake laughing all night.
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Allen, thanks for your comment 😎 and well said 😀
Bodah fits pretty well 😆
Cheers 😆
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Cheers Truthy for another well described “art critique” of the paintings by the inmates of the Saint Mary MacKillop Daycare Centre for the hopelessly insane.
The art materials supplied by the Murdoch Finger Paint Supply Corporation have been a boon for the budding artists but what truly amazes this particular viewer and purveyor of charitable institutional art is how you as an “art critique” Truthy can distinguish so much from the different shades of grey as this was the only colour the aforementioned corporation supplied these artists.
In fact Truthy you have brought a true and vivid visualization of colour to the viewer with your descriptive of the works presented that can`t been seen from viewing these paintings but only from your brochure.
You see Truthy like the wine taster who can taste the barrel caramelization with a hint of a passing Bogong moth,you have given life to a rather dull display indeed.
I applaud your effort Truthy,valiant as it is so as this art display may be sold to the public to raise money for this worthy Daycare Centre,but alas I do not think the public will buy any of it and we will find that we shall just have to dig deep and donate.
But Truthy you can only work with what you have and job well done I say.
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Biggy, thanks for that mate 😀
You are obviously a true connoisseur and discerner of the monotone, nutjob art school whose patron, uncle Rupes, has been instrumental in promoting the “one colour (grey) paints all” philosophy, where the colour and detail are well and truly hidden behind a mask of harmless ineptitude and puerile machinations designed to leave many viewers confused and bewildered.
But you my friend are one of the few that can see through the monotone smokescreen, to the cold, blue and lifeless heart that lies behind the facade, and is the wellspring of what in truth is their soulless and self serving ineptitude. 😯
Keep up the good work mate 😀
Cheers 😆
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How can attempting to shut down reporting on refugees limit the people smugglers’ “shipping information’? When people smugglers can access the Jakarta Post like the rest of us?
There is some bizarro world type break with reality in this Abbott government.
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Dianna, thanks for your comment 😎
Yes indeed, they treat us like fools, and apart from the Jakarta Post, we already know that at least some of the people on the boats have mobile phones, so the truth is that the smugglers know pretty much exactly what’s going on much of the time. 😯
Yes, their very own alternate universe 🙄
Cheers 😀
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sigh…….I’ll keep this simple because the author thinks all things coalition are bad, so lets get to the point. With the horse now well and truly bolted, any comments this author would like to remark about Rudd and his removal of a border control policy that worked resulting in 50,000 illegal boat people later? Perhaps a slight “whoopsy daisy” moment from the ALP\green team? So right now my left leaning friends, your beloved ALP\green party stuffed up and once again its up to the adults in charge to clean up your hideously expensive mistake. Gee, all that money wasted could’ve paid for nurses, hospitals, new drugs on the PBS, support staff for schools……im sure you get it, im just not you sure you understand how illogical your argument sounds when it comes to border control. The way I see it, the leftards are simply abbott haters and anything coalition needs to be howled down. Go figure.
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Craig, welcome… sigh 🙄 I will also keep it simple and tell you thaty you are wrong! 😯
It’s an argument that is based o information put out by the RWNJ’s that ignores the FACTS , those inconvenient things that always get in the way of good LNP propaganda.
If you bothered to check out the real situation, you would find that there was a corresponding slowing of refugee movements around the world, and like so many of the situations lied about and exploited by JWH, it was another happy coincidence, and all the REAL experts agreed that those policies would not work in todays circumstances 😉
And another of those inconvenient FACTS is that the IMF declared Howard’s “government”, the most profligate, wasting more on middle class welfare than Rudd spent to save the country from the GFC, whilst leaving a massive infrastructure deficit. 👿
But I’m most amused by the fact that you would even consider that old chestnut as a basis for your argument? 😯
Sadly the “TRUTH” is an affront to you RWNJ’s, who cannot conceive of the possibility that anyone but a conservative can have good public policy.
And in many cases the truth is that they are last with good public policy… Go figure 😯
Cheers 😀
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Craig,
you may wish to follow this link,
and get an education from the content
Tracking Tony Abbott’s trail of wreckage
http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/tracking-tony-abbotts-wreckage,6044
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Well Craig Rudd was humane,unlike you and the children in play government
Rudd MK2 was right wing ideology to serve those in Labor who are of this same ideology.
Your lot are Neo Conservative Fascists,that is all..
It`s good to see them here Truthy,because it means you`re getting to them 😆
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sigh…..where do we start…again! So,, the fact that Rudd dismantled a working policy means nothing to the left, go the ignorance! I guess you’re comfortable with another 50,000 economic refugees trying it on and thats fine because im not. It has cost Australia many billions of dollars to accommodate this mass illegal influx and yes, its illegal as most have passed 1, 2 or more countries to reach Australia and please inform me which south asian country is at war at the moment or imposing religious persecution that a boat refugee is not able to find safe haven in? The deliberate destruction of passports to de-indentify themselves makes them, illegal the moment they cross Australian borders. So, once again, the adults in charge have to fix your imbecilic mistake and that os going to cost a fortune as well.
Sigh……..so as youve done, lets pad out our post and put in a nonsensical argument about the IMF and its opinion. Yep, Howard left a surplus and Rudd left a……….deficit of……….180-200 billion net debt? So pray, how you would plan to pay this down over the next 20-30 years, more spending of the public purse with money we dont have and a dwindling tax payer base to support a growing retiree population? Gee, it must make you feel good to go the “gotcha” line when youve got nothing of value to add, eh?
So, the ‘TRUTH” is that your beloved ALP\green party were a sham in 6 years of governing and if you feel so inclined, name one policy that was COSTED and not drawn on the back of a beer coaster? Go figure.
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So let`s pad out the IMF report that the Howard was the most profligate in Australia`s history.
IMF they`re the fiscal giants that report on a Nations ability to trade as to their GDP and when Abbott took over we were the best of the G20,the best
Your budget emergency is a smokescreen for austerity because that`s what global financiers wanted with their self created GFC but Rudd did not play ball.
Howard was a contributor to all this with his Deputy Dawg takes us to Iraq and Afghanistan which has cost us countless billions that should have been spent on infrastructure.
Your lot are nothing but Conservative Bible Bashing Bigots and Hypocrites who care not for Australians but only for global corporatism
We see through your IPA/ALEC agenda,your TPP and your pathetic attempt to create a RWNJ fascist State.
You welfare and tax rip off merchants are a plague on whole globe sucking off the government taxpayer teat and we aim to expose every thing Conservative you fraud.
You see so many are like myself and believe that refugees should be processed onshore,your M8 Murdoch is the madman behind this lunacy and so are you.
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Craig, you seem to be the master of nonsensical arguments, as you just ignore the Facts and the truth for the sake of pushing an already well discredited argument. 😯
And quite frankly, from you posts thus far, you prove to be no more than a right wing troll, doing nothing more than regurgitating the same old LNP lies and spin while completely ignoring anything other than your own misguided and some would say pathetically puerile belief in the Abbott, believing every utterance from a man and a party that have proved beyond dispute that they are cheats and liars.
Of course it is your prerogative to place your faith and trust in such people, but unlike people you, facts, truth and decency mean something to me and most here.
So if you have evidence to show what a great leader, or even a mediocre leader, Abbott is, please provide that information, and many here will be happy to debate you on it, but if you are just here to push right wing spin and lies, then you’ve had a fair go, something that RWNJ’s don’t believe in, and I would say to you, don’t bother. 😯
Just a word of advice though, if you do want to quote “facts” or “truth”, don’t draw them from sources connected with Murdoch media, the IPA, or other right wing think tanks, as they will be treated with the derision that they so rightly deserve. We respect “Experts” here, not right wing politicians or Murdoch’s lackeys. 😯
To quote “The X Files” as if it was an Australian political show… “The truth is out there… just not in the LNP!” 😯
Cheers 😀
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Don’t scare Craig off guys… can’t we have him come to play in the dungeon, he would make a fun addition and we have plenty of spare ripe tomatoes to use up 😉
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So…..no facts on your behalf, cannot produce one costed policy, youve chosen to move from your original topic which about boat people and gave me some bollocks about the IMF in return (the relationship to the title ‘Morrison……..’ is?) Gee, would I be right in saying that this simply a fact free blog site designed to have a whinge about all things coalition? My debate was about boat people, so, tell me again what you’re an expert in when debating TRUTH and FACTS in your story today? I’ll tell you what, I find your reply posts quite droll and as such, i’ll leave you and your fellow bloggers in your land of “making ***t up”. Amusingly, I find the Bob Ellis blog a more rational read im sorry to say. Dont bother with a reply, im moving on from this pitiful attempt of all things left.
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No staying power this Craig… can’t formulate a coherent argument so packs his bongos and pisses off 😆
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Just in case you check back craig,I`ll bother a reply and say to you “back in your closet with the half of elected LNP and discuss this with each others fondlings”
Balls to you and your RWNJ rants,happy feelings now and don`t forget to invite Big George.
This comment was made by someone who is not homophobic and just despises hypocritical closet dwellers who judge others and who do not have the courage of genuine LGBT people.
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Who let the wingnut in? Truthy, if you don’t mind, I’ll just open the door, let some fresh air in…
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Cornie,you`re going to need a 250 gig page for this lot by the time they`re thrown out.
When people really awaken as to their real agenda [very soon I say] they will not be re-elected for decades just like US Republicans.
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Cornlegend, the hard yards the the coalition have to do to fix your stuff ups, sucks eh? However, thank you for pointing out just how bad the ALP\greens were in power, nice reminder to ensure the public keep the ALP out of government for another term or two.
Cheers.
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Craig,
its obvious you didn’t read a thing.
These are ABBOTTS stuff ups.
all in around 100 days. 😀
Grin
I can understand all your “sighs”
Abbott obviously is a worry to you.
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No, I read the your whole post, I read research papers for a living however, what you conveniently forget is that the Abbott government, mostly, is responding to the past behaviour of the previous government. I look behind the behaviour not whats in front and thats where I question the sincerity of your information. Look, im moving on from this post, its become quite tedious and you have a nice day.
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good on you Craig,
move on, don’t face the inevitable truth about Abbotts balls ups
You were getting a wee bit boring anyhow, with your tired old rants.
LNP do email the questions out, so the single braincell of recipients doesn’t get too overloaded.
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Sorry, the source was
http://auspol.wikia.com/wiki/Tony%27s_Mandate#January_2014
thought I ‘d post the whole article.
Some RWNJs don’t know how to follow links.
They just sign roboform twitters
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I see this dangerous clown Abbott is at it again.
Now he is using his wedge politics on the Indonesian Govt and their military re asylum seekers.
He will use every rotten trick in the book, like he did in Opposition, to get his way, regardless of the damage he causes.Only this time he really is playing with fire.
The idiot is out of his depth and if there is anyone in his party who is concerned about where he is taking our country they should move on him real quick before it`s too late.
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Consider, thanks for your comment, 😎 and you nailed mate 😀
The fact that his apologists are even here, shows how desperate they’re getting 😯 as usual nothing about how good this A dolt government is just more of the same old shit about Rudd and Labors alleged mess.
Talk about tunnel vision 🙄
Cheers 😀
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Truthy, it seems I may have been too harsh on our illustrious P.M. when I accused him of using wedge politics on the Indonesions.
I just heard him say on the T.V. when speaking on 2GB (where else) that it SEEMS that our General spoke with an Indonesion General about towing the boats back!!!!!!!
Good grief, if ever anyone needed proof that this bloke is thoroughly incompetent, he surely has proved it.
Fancy the leader of any country admitting on T.V. that he doesn`t know what it`s military is up to at any given time!!!!!!!!
Cheers 🙂
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Consider, Mate I think it would be impossible to be too harsh on Abbott 😯 The guy is a complete knobhead 😉
Cheers 😀
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I notice a few people making statements such as, “All you lefties do is criticise Abbott – never acknowledge positive achievements of conservative governments” – or similar, maybe with some personal abuse thrown in, but that is something I hear a lot on the blogging network.
Now, strange as it may appear, I actually like governments of any political stripe doing good for the people. I will freely and happily endorse good decisions, good policy resulting in beneficial outcomes.
Therefore, dear reader, your attention to the last time a conservative government did anything positive and beneficial:
Howard’s gun buy back & gun legislation. Top work.
I am patiently waiting for Abbott; I promise if he produces anything positive and beneficial for our nation I will shout it loud to the sky.
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Ain`t eva gonna happen diannaart 🙂 ,so just go swimming with Woger 😆 and stay happy.
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Dianna, credit where credit’s due 😯
Cheers 😀
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I would have said, the last decent effort was when Holt went swimming, but that is a bit crude, even for me 😀
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What I would like to see is one of our top performing groups do an album of protest songs which is what Burt Bacharch did when George W was in office. It was called “At this Time” and one song begins “who. Are these people who are telling us lies and. How did these people get control of our lives. Make them STOP”. I saw him perform it at the Opera House ,great stuff. We need our. Own voice telling the world what is happening here. Time for more protests songs.
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Caz2, thanks for your comment 😎 we need every avenue covered, to make sure that the message gets through, cos leaving this mob in charge for even 5 minutes longer than necessary, could add years to our recovery from their incompetence. 😦
Cheers 😀
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when will this gutless wonder face the australian public and answer questiosns, instead of hiding behind the shock jocks on 2GB ,
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My say, thanks for your comment 😎 Good question, but and my money’s on … Never 😯
Cheers 😀
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Another good teeth grinder, Truthie.
By the way the costs for the life boats has been covered by the withdrawn pay rises for care givers to the very young and the very old. GRRR… GRRR…GRRR .
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Gilly, thanks for that 😀 yes it’s good to see he’s got his priorities set… all wrong 😯
What a bunch of oxygen thieves they are. 👿
Cheers 😀
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Abbott has finally done it. He linked the asylum seekers issue with that frightening word “WAR”
What a dangerous bastard he is.
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Morning Consider 😀
Yes he is a dangerous bastard, a lying bastard, a crooked bastard, and in fact and all round bastard 😯
Cheers 😀
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Now we hear Pyne has started a “culture war” on education!!!!!
Can anyone see a certain agenda here, or am I just a conspiracy nut-case?
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Mate, Pyne is another all round bastard 👿
And they do have an agenda, and it’s all bad 😯
Cheers 😀
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Mr. Abbott. You are with war, with refugees that are fleeing from war.
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Mr. Abbott, why do you see the people as your enemy. Why do suspect our wish to know what you are doing, that is suppose to be on our behalf.
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well we are finally here, in a country tht fires shots acroos the bows of a vessel laden with unarmed civilians, no doubt there were plenty of women and children to traumatise. I hope the big brave politician who approved it doesnt lose sleep wondering how he would feel if his wife and kids had to undergo the same ordeal. Funny, this is the sort of event most of the refugees were probably fleeing
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Oldfart, thanks for your comment 😎
I haven’t heard about that one as yet, is it a rumour? or is it a report from Jakarta?
Cos you would think that it would contravene international and maritime law 😉
Cheers 😀
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beng reported on all msm including just in on ABC, dont think they are worried by a few laws. Do the armed forces still swear allegiance to the queen? If so the GG could step in as her representative
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Mate, I’ve been watching ABC24 all morning, and haven’t seen anything as yet, but I am trying to finish my next post, so may have been distracted 😯
So thanks for the update, and I’ll watch for the next set of headlines 😀
Cheers 😀
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Yes mate, they’re taking about it now, and how the mob are denying it 😯
Thanks again 😀
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Mr. Morrison once again told us yesterday, we have trouble understanding what Abbott’s words mean.
When he said they would not tow back boats, that is not what he meant. Once again we have to keep in mind, that Abbott has a different dictionary to the rest of us.
It appears, he meant he would only tow the boats to the edge of Indonesian territory. He meant that in no way they would invade their sovereign waters.
Silly us, forgetting that Abbott only ever tells us half of what he means. We have to guess the rest,
A message to Mr. Hockey. Yesterday’s senate hearings into the audit commission was not the joke. The joke is the commission itself.
Congratulations for nearly reaching that number. May the next one come quicker.
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Fed up, thanks for your comment 😎 and kind words 😀
Yes, the commission is a joke, but the worst joke for Australia is Hockey and the Abbott mob 😯
Migs told me at the 50,000 mark, that the next 50,000 comes much quicker, and as usual… he was right 😯
Thanks again 😀
Cheers 😀
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Indonesia has once again warned Abbott he is on a slippy slope. Providing new boats are seen as being worse, than they have done up to now,.
It is apparent that Abbott is not interested in mending fences with that country,.
With an election imminent, I cannot see how Indonesia cannot take action against Abbott.
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Marty didn`t look too happy this morning,maybe that was at the prospect of meeting Bishop again.
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Mate, I feel his pain 😯 I’d rather have my foot run over by an SUV, or shut my fingers in the car door… Anything
Cheers 😀
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Fed up, yes I agree, but he keeps telling us that all’s well 🙄 the man (?) couldn’t lie straight in bed 😯
Keep up the good work, cos it’s going to be a busy year 😉
Cheers 😀
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Morrison and his Liberal thugs
Continue to treat us like mugs
For he’s told us today
Navy loses it’s way
If that’s true are the Crew all on drugs
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😆 😆 😆
and the answer is… probably, or who’s askin’? 😀
Cheers 😀
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