Grffith bi-election; what does it mean?

Griffith bi-election; what does it mean?Terri Butler 1

Five months after the federal election, there are many factors at play, that feed into the bi-election result and the two opposing views of that result.

I have to admit to being very disappointed by the fact that the result didn’t hand to Abbott the flogging that he so richly deserved, or that it didn’t reflect QLDers outrage over Newman’s fascist nut-jobery.

However, when you look at the circumstances, I don’t think it is quite so black and white.

For starters, we have seen;

  1. Three plus years of the most intense, dishonest and misleading propaganda campaign in this great nations history. (Which is still ongoing   👿  )
  2. Abbott’s three year dummy spit and election campaign, causing even the hardiest of political tragics to suffer electoral burn out.
  3. Both Abbott and Newman playing similar games of pandering to the scared, the dispossessed and the red-neck elements in society.
  4. The factionalism of the ALP feeding the right wing propaganda campaign, including the whiteanting of Gillard by Rudd supporters, if not Rudd himself.
  5. A high profile local challenger, with a campaign that was well funded, and had already had a trial run, or to use a sports analogy; “He was match fit.”, against a candidate who didn’t even know that she was ‘in the game’ until late December, and then had to gain a local profile for a bi-election in early Feb.
  6. Local propaganda, courtesy of Murdoch’s Courier Mail, the main (and i use the term loosely) “News” paper.
  7. Some voter backlash against a sitting member who promised to see out the full three year term, only to quit three months after the election.

As I see it, these were the main factors in play, but there is also a level of voter apathy, ignorance and selfishness that  can’t be ignored.

So let’s look a bit closer.

  1. The three years of lies, slogans and propaganda, left the majority of those that rely on the MSM for their information, insecure, confused and badly misled to the point of being brainwashed.    Now if you think that I’m exaggerating,  think back over the last three years and see what you can remember of the political rhetoric from that period. The chances are that “Juliar”, “Stop the boats”, ” Stop the waste”, “Axe the tax”, dysfunctional government”  etc , will be front and centre, because even those of us that knew they were talking crap were still bombarded to the point of indoctrination.   So it would be safe to assume that at least some are still “under the influence”.
  2. After the longest dummy spit in Australia’s political history, accentuated  by the constant cries of  “Foul”, and  “Illegitimate government” and “Call an election now”; and accompanied by the three part harmonies of those renowned “Suppository’s of Wisdom”, Jones, Hadley and Bolt singing the Chaff bag and died of shame overture, is it any wonder that some voters have become sick to death of politics, and accordingly disconnected.
  3. The scare campaign is a very powerful political weapon, for the ruthless politician, and one that Abbott happily employed for entire tenure as LOTO and sadly continues to use as alleged PM, as it’s all he’s got!    His fear campaigns included; the economy, debt and deficit, asylum seekers, government incompetence and dysfunction, the carbon “tax”, union corruption… pretty much everything.   😯
  4. Of course the ALP have to take their fair share of the credit  for giving Abbott and Murdoch the ammo that they needed to make the whole sordid scheme work, and most of the blame for the whiteanting and destabilisation fell at the feet of the member for Griffith, rightly or wrongly, and so, as we learnt from the election, the Rudd factor had peaked, and was no longer the factor that many hoped it was.
  5. Glasson had spent months campaigning prior to the election, and had a high local profile. His campaign was well funded, and well rehearsed, while Terri Butler had to hit the ground running  with less than two months to build a local profile and and win a bi-election.
  6. Brisbane is primarily a one paper town, and that paper is Murdoch’s, so sadly those that rely on the news papers for their information only ever hear the right wing spin about Abbott and Newman, and not the facts about their dishonesty, stupidity, stuff ups or real agendas, so combine that with rest of the useless MSM, and you potentially have a lot of mushroom like voters.
  7. If I had to go back to the polls after (see #’s 1 & 2   😀   ), I’d be less than happy with the bloke and possibly the party that caused it   😯

Now I’m not saying that it was a great result or a bad result for Labor,  But I have heard a lot of commentary about the 0.5 – 1% swing to the LNP, in the MSM, and how it goes against what’s expected at a bi-election.   So my question is:

Can anyone tell me what part of  the last three plus years of the political cycle has been experienced, to this extent, in this country before?

I would have thought that comparing anything out of this political cycle with “The Norm” or “What’s expected” is just an exercise in futility,  with this  “Adult”, “No Surprises” government  (Previously a puerile, no idea opposition).

Having said that,  there are important issues that we need to look at in the wash up  IMHO.

  1. Regardless of all the variables I have outlined, and others that I’m sure I have missed, and all the rhetoric from both sides, the fact is that Griffith now has a new and hopefully decent sitting  Labor member in Terri Butler, which means we won, which in turn makes it one less seat that we have to try to win back next time.   😀
  2. As we are only five months into the new term of this rabble, there is still a long way to go, and worrying over semantics is just another distraction from the main game, which is and has to remain the demise of  Abbott and the LNP.
  3. One of the variables that I haven’t mentioned thus far is Bill Shorten.     Now I have made my thoughts on Shorten well known, from the outset, that I don’t believe that he should be the leader, at least at this time, and think that the biggest internal issue for the ALP to deal with, despite its protestations that, they’ve “learnt the lessons” of the electoral beating and the past, is the power base of the factions.   Sadly, the “right” faction of the party is still playing its silly  and self destructive “power” games, whilst being the source of the majority of alleged union corruption, and incidentally the faction responsible for getting Shorten elected.

The reality for the ALP is that the Lacklustre performance of Shorten as leader, combined with the blind ambition of the right factions is the most concerning long term aspect that will need to be dealt with, if they want to keep Abbott to one term or less.

One of the most commonly heard complaints about Australian politics is that there is little or no difference between the major party’s, and perception or reality, it needs to be addressed.

Now, more than ever we need the ALP to get back to its core values, and that means restructuring the party to do away with factionalism once and for all, and giving the power back to the rank and file to achieve true representation, and restore the balance and confidence in the selections and democratic processes of the party.

So back to the original question; “Griffith bi-election; What does it mean?…

In the scheme of things, I would suggest… Not much, except that;

  1. We won the first of many battles, with the main game still ahead.
  2. Despite the rhetoric of the LNP and Glasson’s reluctance to concede, there can be no real joy taken from this loss for the LNP; as with the amount of corporate and media support that they had, a party with real policies and Australia’s best interests at heart, should and would have performed much better than winning on the back of around 30,000 swung votes, handed to them by Murdoch’s propaganda machine, in the election that was tipped to be an ALP massacre.
  3. IMHO, the big lessons are that we mustn’t get bogged down in semantics, but stay focussed  and disciplined, and work out strategies to fight the battles on all fronts, including IR, political, media and social.
  4. In the short term at least there is not a lot that we can do about Shorten, other than hope that he fires up and starts to perform, but our immediate focus should be to hold this truly bad government to account, and on ways to negate the Murdoch factor, cos the one thing that Australia needs, is… the truth.

What do you think?

Terri Butler

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66 Responses to Grffith bi-election; what does it mean?

  1. melaine says:

    Well put Truthie 😀
    Our focus needs to be on holding the lying nasty people to account… the more citizens we can bring to the ‘Light’ by exposing the hypocrisy of these creatures the better.
    Even if we only manage to gently lead one or two each that will slowly grow as they will then go on to lead others to the ‘Light’…
    And IMHO 😀 … I think Terri Butler deserves a ‘guernsey’ for her efforts, she is a remarkable young woman and what she managed to achieve in such a short time, with all the handicaps she was lumbered with, should be applauded for the wonderful success it is.
    Thanks for writing this Truthie, as always you got it just purrfect.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Mel, thanks for that, I wasn’t sure about it initially, but thought it needed to be said 😉

      I agree whole heartedly about Terri Butler, if she’d even held on by the skin of her teeth, I would have seen it as a great win for her and her efforts, and I have to say that it bodes well for the constituents of Griffith too. 😀

      Cheers 😀

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    • Rhonda says:

      Nicely put. For those disappointed that Labor didn’t have an overwhelming victory in Griffith, when you see it in the context written here, Terri has done a fine job in holding the seat. As mentioned in the article, ‘The Norm’ no longer applies in politics. When John Howard became the first PM to lose his seat in nearly 80 years, it set the trend for more ‘Norms’ to be broken. So on the strength of that, there were no guarantees of a Labor victory, which would have been ‘The Norm’ in the past.

      Top marks to Terri. She has really ‘found her feet’ too, during the time she has been campaigning. Her increasing confidence was noticeable and she was very gracious to her opponent. She is an asset to Labor.

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      • melaine says:

        Nice to have a chance to catch up with you Rhonda, been following the comments at IA, upvoting as a ‘guest’ and sending positive thoughts to you and a few others I came to be friendly with there, but not up to throwing myself back into the fray right now… so driving all nuts here instead, with the ‘odd’ rant and lots of custard tarts thrown in for good measure 😆 😆
        You are sooo correct there Rhonda… nothing ‘Normal’ about the times we are living thru 😯
        Pop in to our new Lounge for a custard tart and a dip in lager lap vat sometime soon… 😀

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  2. Fed up says:

    I hope it means that a line has now been drawn under Kevin Rudd. That he now belongs to history.

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  3. Fed up says:

    If those 10,000 postal and pre poll votes, show a bigger swing to Glasson, it could mean that Abbott’s opening the campaign, and turning up to the campaign, was disastrous for the party.

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  4. Fed up says:

    I love the way, that Terri is being so nice to Glasson, saying what a lovely man he is. Have not really seen any evidence of that. In fact, the man was beginning to come across as harsh, especially in the company of his bested friend Tony.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Fed up, yes, either way the LNP can’t win; literally or morally 😀

      Yes, I noticed that when she thanked everyone, but Glasson came across as a typical, nasty liberal, and a bad loser… although that’s another RWNJ trait 😯

      Cheers 😀

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  5. cornlegend says:

    Truthy,
    a good article to think about.
    May I say,having met her, Terri Butler is a lovely, smart young woman and will bring much to the Opposition
    What this election has shown me, is that Shorten was given the opportunity to shine in this, his first campaign.
    He failed miserably.
    Kate Ellis, Catherine King and Albo among others campaigned for Terri, and all got warm receptions around the hustings.
    Shorten less so, from what I’ve been told.
    He is failing miserably at selling himself, let alone “the alternative government’
    Abbott, to his credit, took the fight to the Government with monotonous regularity daily
    Shorten just goes missing from the action.

    I just can’t get any enthusiasm to fight for the ALP under Shorten.
    Thing I may well just sit this one out..

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Cornie, mate, you know how I feel about Shorten, as pretty much every concern that I had about him as been only confirmed since his election.

      I also got that impression from what I have seen of Terri Butler, I think she’ll be a great member. 😀

      The problem is that they’ve backed themselves into a corner with Shorten, as if they make moves to dump him now, they will be back where they started, with the howls of derision from the LNP/Murdoch’s mob,going on for the next decade. 😯

      IMHO, the only clean way for him to be replaced, is if he quits the top job due to ill health or family reasons, but he’s too ambitious, so I can’t see that happening. 😦

      Maybe there’s other ways?

      Mate I understand where you’re coming from, but you care too much and are needed to much to just sit this one out 😉

      BTW, I was going to ask you what you thought about a “Real News” page, exclusively for posting links and news items as per the MSM, along with the real stories for direct comparison?

      It was just a thought that I had. 😉

      Cheers 😀

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      • melaine says:

        I think that is a great idea Truthie, there does need to be a resource of ‘real news’ links where comparisons can be made…

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        • Truth Seeker says:

          Mel, thanks for your feedback 😎

          Yes but I’m not sure whether it would be a good page for us, or might be better suited to Kate’s site, “Fair Media Alliance”, as her aim in starting it was to highlight the lack of truth in our current MSM. 😀

          What do you think?

          Cheers 😉

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        • diannaart says:

          Mel

          there does need to be a resource of ‘real news’ links where comparisons can be made…

          There was one once, used to be known as the ABC.

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          • melaine says:

            Hey Dianna 😀

            I know and I miss my aunty sooooo much… still watch some of the drama shows, comedy and doco’s but really miss being able to watch the rest 😦
            HWO has pretty much banned news services on the telly, only allowed to watch with the sound turned down coz if I hear them I get sooo carried away with the expletives he thinks I might do a fufu valve 😆 😆

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  6. Rhonda says:

    Good article TS, I agree on so many points and have said so elsewhere. Labor supporters need to present a united front if they want to be seen as a viable alternative, come the next federal election, otherwise they will remain in Opposition for some time to come.

    Let’s see how Bill Shorten performs now the Griffith by-election is out of the way and the new parliamentary year about to start. To be fair, he did spend a lot of time in Griffith, campaigning with Terri Butler. Rudd was conspicuous by his absence, which gives lie to any claim that he’s still ‘Qld’s favourite son’ – even he has finally acknowledged that.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Rhonda, thanks for your comment 😎 and kind words 😀

      All we can do, short term, is watch and hope, as you say, that he picks up his game, with a bit of clear air around him, but my main concern is his baggage, which was reinforced this morning by an LNP MP, on ABC24, who gleefully referred to his past to try to discredit him over his opposition to the RC into alleged union corruption.

      It’s going to be a long year 😉

      Cheers 😀

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  7. silkworm says:

    Bob Ellis makes the point that there was a large number of people who failed to vote, and as a consequence, Glasson’s numbers were way down on his vote from 2013. That translates to a BIG LOSS for the LNP.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Silkworm, thanks for your comment 😎

      yes it was an interesting point that he made, and I can certainly see where he’s coming from, but I would argue that, when the full situation is taken into account, there are many reasons to consider this a big loss to the LNP. 😀

      Cheers 😀

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      • cornlegend says:

        on the figures as of 2pm. dst
        Glassons figure were up !.65 %
        There was a large number of voters who failed to turn out.
        This would have an impact on all candidates, not one particular one necessarily.
        Glassons final tally could be higher as postal and absentee votes usually tend to favour LNP

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  8. diannaart says:

    Thanks Truthie – excellent summary.

    While not full on victory for Labor – more to do with Shorten, ahem, selling himself short plus the ‘successful campaign of hate’ from within and without the Labor party… result is a shining light of hope for those of us with a humanitarian bent.

    Anyone have some info on WA senate re-election?

    Have a feeling Labor Tasmania has shot itself in the foot with attempt to distance itself from Greens. FFS peeps we stuff up environment – we have no economic progress. EOS.

    As for my home state – if LNP retains government – I give up. I really don’t know TF about anything. This LNP government has to be the most dismal of governments Victoria has endured. At least with Kennett I got that adrenalin rush – sort of Abbott-lite. My stress levels were never so high.

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    • cornlegend says:

      AEC are asking for a new election.
      ALP and LNP lawyers arguing for the first count to be ratified

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Dianna, thanks for that 😀

      I think they’re supposed to bring down the decision later in the week, but not 100% sure. 😉

      Tassie’s a difficult one to pick, as there are lots of conflicting interests at play. 😯

      And I agree that without a healthy environment, the economies will eventually fail 😥

      I really can’t see Victorians sticking with Napthine… But then in this current political climate, who knows? 😉

      Cheers 😀

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  9. Consider says:

    Very good comments Truthy,Having been a member of the ALP for most of my working life ,I am on record with them as to the damage the “organised factions” of the Party were doing to it,not only internally,(see the election of Shorten as LOTO) but, more importantly the PERCEPTION of what the voters think of what power the factions have and just who really runs the elected members of the ALP.
    Just how damaging is that term “Faceless men” when used so effectively by the MSM and Bolt Jones et al.
    Admittedly, if Rudd is to be believed, he wasn`t a member of any faction, but that didn`t stop him using them.
    IMHO Rudd and his followers, have done more damage to the ALP than even the DLP.
    That mob kept us out of Govt. for decades and Rudd`s treachery certainly contributed in no small way to the election of the most dangerous Govt. led by a complete Buffoon, who no doubt will be cast aside by his own lot when the right time comes.
    I dislike intensely attacking Labor people publicly as it plays into the hands of the other mob , but like you, I believe that Shorten,at no stage of his leadership of the Party has given any sign that he can take it up to Abbott.
    As you said, if the voters in Griffith didn`t have enough ammo to send the message to Abbott that they weren`t going to cop this rubbish he is foisting on this great country, even in the few short months he`s been there, what more do they need? I think even a Drovers dog could have inspired them to send him the right message with a five% swing at least against his party.The way things are I wouldn`t be surprised that even if the LNP were to put the previous member up as a candidate in Redcliffe, in a fortnights time, the people would re-elect him. I know its a State seat but, like the Unions we are all tarred with the same brush, ie if the HSU are bad, all Unions are bad and if Shortens leading us, the rest of the Party must be the same as him.
    Getting back to the Factions, EVERY party have members with different views and opinions on a multitude of things,and that`s as it should and must be, but the moment a member is told by an “organised group” as to what you should do or say or that you must vote a certain way that party is finished. I think there is a word for that type of organisation,and you are smart enough to know what it is.
    That`s it for me Mate, time for a few single malts. 🙂

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  10. Great post, Truthie.

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  11. cornlegend says:

    With your help we:
    •Bought more than 500 t-shirts and 600 signs, making sure our campaign was highly visible
    •Called over 36,000 voters in Griffith
    •Shared images online with over 2 million people
    •Had hundreds of people attend Medicare’s Birthday Party with news coverage on all 5 free-to-air channels
    •Had hundreds of volunteers across all of the polling booths on Saturday

    And these numbers are only a snippet of the contributions that you made. So when I say this win belongs to you, you know I mean it.

    I also just want to thank the hard work of the campaign team, who dedicated the last four weeks to help make this happen.

    I know this is only the start, and I promise that I’ll keep taking the fight up to Tony Abbott and his government.

    With thanks,

    Terri Butler

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  12. DiddyWrote says:

    Hi Truth Seeker,

    This is the first ever recorded use of the F-Word in English and I think you would agree with its message;

    http://io9.com/heres-the-first-recorded-instance-of-the-f-word-in-eng-1519247071

    I totally agree with it’s sentiments and believe it’s as true today as was back then.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      DiddyWrote, welcome to my site 😀 and thanks for your comment 😎

      yes, I see the relevance… Good one 😀

      I hope you can join our conversations again 😎

      Cheers 😀

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    • oldfart says:

      you do know that FUCK is an acronym for an old english criminal charge of;
      For
      Unlawful
      Carnal
      Knowledge

      The only bit of useful knowledge that a catholic army padre ever gave me 🙂

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      • Truth Seeker says:

        Mate, I was also told that many moons ago, although I know some dispute it 😉 But I also still quote it as a feasible explanation for the acronym that became the word. 😀

        Cheers 😀

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  13. Gilly says:

    Hi Truthie, good stuff. Just a couple of positives. K Rudd, luv him or loath him, probably had several point personal advantage as a very popular member, who by most accounts did an excellent job of local representation and accessability. Another point is that in the 2013 election PUP took 3.3% of the votes, most of which were probably right of centre. The third was the higher count of non-voters. I expect these were more Labor than LNP, as at the moment, the morale of Labor voters seems to be lower than LNP voters. Any way I am still looking for Abbotts funeral notice, it can’t be far away, surely.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Gilly, thanks mate 😀 and thanks for your input 😎

      Yes, I think that PUP will make a dogs breakfast of the right wing vote over the next round of state and federal elections 😆

      Instead of the old; “The reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated” for Abbott it’ll be “reports of my demise have been greatly celebrated” or “largely ignored” 😯

      Maybe we could just have his passport cancelled the next time he leaves the country, slam the door and scream with confidence; “And stay out!”

      Cheers 😀

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  14. David says:

    Hi Truth Seeker

    IMO, there are intersecting themes, similarities and echoes with the years 72-75.
    The set ups, back stabbings, tactical leaks to the press, scandals and innuendo, a fighting opposition pissed with previous failure and fired by a pugnacious, no holds barred leader, unrelenting press campaign, CIA connections, huge amounts of money.
    The methodology of the regime change altered, but, Yeah, its happened b4.

    If you come to agree with the comparison then promises that the Party has ‘learnt its lesson’ ring hollow.

    The core values, applause resounding, the ALP once had quite a different focus, societal improvements, not sectional.

    More power to you

    David

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      David, welcome to my site 😀 and thanks for your comment 😎

      Yes, there are definitely similarities, but I do believe that this is the most extreme we have seen, or at least the most extreme I’ve seen 😉

      And the promises of lessons learnt ring decidedly hollow, with Shorten as leader??? 😦

      Although I do think that the core values reside predominantly in the rank and file, I think there are still some of the parliamentary party that hold to those values 😯

      David, I hope you can join our conversations again 😀

      Cheers 😀

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  15. bighead1883 says:

    I like your epilogue as to Griffith Truthy as I agree with much of what you have concluded.
    IMHO the MSM has been the main transgressor in keeping all things Abbott&Co.
    There is a litany of lies easily proven by even a cadet journalist yet the ever omnipresent onslaught against Labor is having the desired result for the status quo.
    How many Royal Commissions will we see?
    How much more AG interference will we from Brandis/Abetz and Co?
    This MSM onslaught will grow much larger is my prediction as was shown as to how Sky News handled the by-election.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Hey Biggy, good to have you back 😀 and thanks mate 😀

      Yes, I think there’s going to be an awful lot of anger in the community, when they see services and benefits being cut, to fund Abbott’s personal vendetta against the unions and the ALP 😡

      Yes, and how much will they cost us? 😉

      Cheers 😀

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  16. my say says:

    I really think the liberals thought they could win the seat of griffith with rudd out of the picture,
    that is why they ran with glasson again,he took a lot of votes off rudd in the federal election,and no one had heard a lot of teri, until she started her campaign,and what a great job she has done ,she will represent griffith very well, and i dont care if she won by only one vote,a win is a win,

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  17. Consider says:

    Biggy, good to see you are up and about again.
    Here is a tip mate, next time you visit the dentist, just before he starts the procedure, grab him by a certain part of his anatomy ,look him in the eye and say “this isn`t going to hurt mate is it” ?

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  18. brickbob says:

    Hi Truthie and thanks for a great breakdown and insight into the Griffith by election,and i agree it wasn’t a good result for the LNP as opposed to the bullshit that bastard Brandis keeps sprouting like some 19th century carpetbagger. Considering Terri Butler only entered the race a few short months ago it was a remarkable win when put into context. I just read your Pants on fire poem,as usual very funny and very true and God knows we all need a few laughs at this difficult period in time. Tony Abbott is the only PM who has to take a spare pair of pants and a fire extingusher every time he makes a speech. Keep it up.””’ Cheers.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Brickbob, thanks for your comment and feedback 😎

      Yes mate, I agree, Terri’s effort was outstanding, and Glasson proved himself to be nothing more than a… Liberal, which is by far and away the biggest insult that I can give. 👿

      At least, they tell us that Abbott’s experienced at putting out fires, although over the last five months all he has done is light them, and let them burn? 😯

      Cheers 😀

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  19. frontad84 says:

    The agenda of the evil Mad Monk
    Is that of a Dictator drunk
    With the power to destroy
    Everything we enjoy
    Let us pray it backfires on the skunk

    When Tony Abbott won there were cheers
    From supporters who then had no fears
    Now they’d like to back track
    From that megalomaniac
    And cheers have now turned to jeers.

    Thousands thought Abbott the exception
    Who would never stoop to deception
    But this self professed liar
    Spawned in Hell’s fire
    Has ruined their powers of perception.

    To say P.M’s brain’s running wild
    Would be really putting it mild
    With his “Goodies” and “Baddies”
    “Great Big”, – shows how sad he is
    Makes one think we are ruled by a child

    Believe me we should feel afraid
    Of the fuck ups Abbott has made
    Maybe someone real slick
    Will get rid of him quick
    With a rapid fire fusillade.

    In my 85 years on earth
    For the first time I’ve lost all my mirth
    Watching Australia decline
    At the hands of that swine – (Abbott)
    Who should have been drowned at birth.

    Tony Abbott P.M. in reverse
    Each day makes Aussie much worse
    With his shit for brains schemes
    Shattering everyone’s dreams
    Hope he’ll soon get to ride in a hearse.

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  20. Fed up says:

    Abbott making statement to the house, followed by Shorten in about five minutes. ABC 24

    No one knows what it is about.

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  21. Fed up says:

    Awarding a Victoria Cross. Should divert some attention from Abbott.

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  22. James Cook says:

    Hi Truthie, This is my first comment on your site although I’ve been reading it [and other leftie sites] for some time. I agree with your comments, and those of correspondents [and, as an aside, I wish I were as articulate and informed as they, especially cornlegend] but I do think the very small swing to Glasson works in Labor’s favour. I imagine, had the Libs been decimated in Griffith then they would have had a serious rethink of direction or message [ie. lies] and possibly changed tactics before the next full election. But with this small swing they may be [I hope] a little complacent and not able to see the shitstorm headed their way. I have a dream……etc.
    Cheers,
    Cookie

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Hi Cookie, and welcome 😀

      Yes, Cornie’s great, as are all my fine contributors 😀

      Yes you may be right about the small swing 😎

      Thanks for your comment 😎 and I hope you can join us again 😀

      Cheers 😀

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    • cornlegend says:

      nothing articulate about me mate,
      Just a raging dislike {hatred ?} of all things LNP.
      Just don’t underestimate yourself Captain, your effort above was fine.
      What we need is people like you continuing to comment and get the message out
      it is surprising the number of people who say “I have been reading but don’t comment…………”
      Then after encouraging them out they are bloody rippers.
      Don’t worry about punctuation, grammar, spelling etc , no one here gives a toss.
      We just want your input, and the ability to put your feet up in the Lounge, have a dip in the vat, a custard tart and a yarn.
      We have a long battle ahead, We need you.
      And to have bloody Captain James Cook in the Lounge, thats a first 😀

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  23. oldfart says:

    ” the result didn’t hand to Abbott the flogging that he so richly deserved, or that it didn’t reflect QLDers outrage over Newman’s fascist nut-jobery.”

    Yes it did, look at the demographics of the seat, They have changed, this is now an inner city million dollar home by the riverside LNP voter refuge. This has been slowly turning into an LNP seat. Add to that a well known cndidate, who is cashed up throwing tons of money at it and then gets beaten by an unknown nobody from the ALP The only reason Rudd didnt get beaten in this is because it is very rare for a PM to get chucked out of his seat (only happened twice). This was a slap on the head with a dead fish to Abbott and Newman for both their stuff ups. And the thing that finished it off for them was the flip flopping by Glasson on the medicare co-payment(tax). When they dont realise that most people already see the gap between fee and refund as a co-payment. No, a win is a win. This seat was moving towards the LNP for the last two elections prior to the bi-election, when voters should have been pissed with Rudd for not sticking around when he said he would, but the LNP still didn’t win

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Oldfart, thanks for your comment 😎

      I did know about the redistribution, in general terms, so thanks for the extra detail 😀

      My main point was that there were many factors to justify ignoring the claims in the MSM and the LNP 😯

      Cheers 😀

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  24. oldfart says:

    Napthine just won the next victorian elction, he just gave spc ardmona 22mil

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  25. James Cook says:

    Cornie and TS thanks for the welcome. I feel like I’m having a beer with a couple of old mates! [“old” as in long-term]. Thanks to your encouragement I will try to comment more often, even if it’s just a “well done TS”. I certainly pass on your ideas and comments to friends who tend to rely on the MSM for political news and a number of them now regularly refer to this site and IA, AIMN, etc.
    So, once again, thanks muchly for the real news!
    Cookie
    PS: Spot on Cornie…I’ve been called Captain since I was a kid [back when dinosaurs roamed the earth]

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Cookie, it’s great to know you’re out there lurking and sharing, 😀 and it’s even better to have you join our conversations 😎

      So there will always be a comfy chair, a drink, a custard tart and other great munchies waiting for you here in the lounge, as well as good conversations and friends 😀 and hopefully some thought provoking discussions on the individual posts 😯

      So agin… welcome 😀

      Cheers 😀

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    • cornlegend says:

      Old, as in vintage as well mate 🙂

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      • Truth Seeker says:

        Morning Cornie 😀

        Mate for such an old romantic as your good self, I have put up a “Happy Valentines Day” post, for stories, poems etc 😉

        Cheers 😀

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