Was it just me, or did anyone else find it more than passing strange that Shinzo Abe would be worried about whether or not Abbott would lose a spill, and him citing concerns over losing the submarine contract?… WTF?
Now Abbott has stated that there were no back room deals, ( and we all know how much we can trust what our mendacious Prime Moron says??? ❓ ), but since when do other countries leaders enter the public discourse on internal politics in Australia?
One can only conclude that he is obviously under some understanding that the contract is already theirs, 😯 so the questions are…?
- Did Abbott give him personal assurances?
- Was it one of the conditions for signing the FTA with Japan?
- Do we stand to be sued for any decision that disadvantages the Japanese, under ISDS provisions?
Now prior to the spill motion being defeated, Abbott gave a SA LNP MP, along with the rest of the country, the impression that there would be an “Open Tender” process, whereby Australian companies can bid for the work. 😉
For starters why, only under duress and the threat of losing his job, would an Australian PM make a concession to the effect that “Australian companies” can tender for an “Australian” defence contract , when that should have gone without saying? WTF? 😯
And then the day after the spill motion was defeated, we saw Kevin Andrews going to SA, to make an “announcement” about the tender process, but trying very hard to sidestep the question of whether there is going to be an “Open Tender” Process, rather referring to “His decision” to make it a “Competitive Evaluation Process” instead… WTF?
Or to be more precise, WTF is a “Competitive Evaluation Process”? ❓
Well apparently no-one knows, as the term has only been found in some LNP talking points, and the Minister who claims it as his decision, couldn’t explain it??? Mmmmm? 😉
So what can we assume from this further, apparent deception, so soon after Abbott’s promise that he has heard, and changed, and his government has changed too!
Well another clue to the accuracy, or not, of Abbott’s statement/declaration/promise, came via Sloppy Joe, who on 7.30, reaffirmed his commitment to the very same policies for the next budget, that are left over from the last budget, and are currently held up in the senate, with little to no prospect of being passed… So once more with feeling… WTF ❓
We also saw Abbott claiming that Labor are promoting the open tender process that would mean that we could end up with “Putin” class subs, or in fact subs supplied by Kim Jong Ill, who just happens to be dead, making that another claim that’s somewhat less than credible 😯
So, since Abbott’s umpteenth promise of a more consultative and collegial government – cos he’s heard the messages and he and his government have changed 😯 – and what we’ve seen of the good government that was supposed to start on Monday after the spill that wasn’t, is Abbott and his mendacious mob of miscreants, giving us the same old lies, spin, misinformation, policies and confusion that got them into this mess in the first place.
- We’ve seen ministers contradicting Abbott, or was it Abbott contradicting ministers?
- We’ve seen self retracting weasel words about building the subs in SA, with many a cynical commentator alluding to the possibility it was all about gaining votes, and nothing to do with building the subs anywhere but Japan! 😯
- We’ve seen Hockey standing by his budget that only he and Abbott want 😡
- We’ve seen more of Chrissy Pyne lying (according to ABC fact check) about Labors $6.6 billion cuts to higher education 😯
- We’ve seen Andrews saying there will be no open tender process Just a …. “Competitive Evaluation Process”… WTF? 😉
- We’ve seen the continuing farce that is laughingly called parliament, courtesy of Bronnie Bishop?
- And the list goes on 😯
So they’ve changed eh??? 🙄
But I digress 😯
So, in conclusion, I for one would be more than happy to see us pay half as much again for local production of the subs, as the lions share of whatever money we pay for them would be put back into the economy, OUR economy, in the creation of jobs, tax receipts, consumer spending and confidence, and the flow on to other associated as well as unrelated industries. 😯
$20 – 40 billion would be much better spent here than in Japan or anywhere else for that matter, so my final question is;
Hey Abbott… What’s the story?
Truthie, WTF indeed. I’ve been off the air since yesterday evening, so haven’t heard about Shinzo, but I’m about to delve into my Google Alerts and find out all about it. I must say, I DID wonder what the Japanese might have to say about the submarines because I was pretty sure I remembered that there had been an announcement that they would build them. Great work, Truthie.
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Morning Kate 🙂
What’s the odds that if they bow to pressure, and award the contract to ASC, we’ll be sued by Japan?
Of course Abbott would rather deal with the public backlash over that (getting them built in Japan), than try to explain that he has left us wide open to being sued as a result of his manic desire to sign FTP’s with ISDS provisions. 😡
He should be locked up for treason! 😡
Cheers 🙂
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Thruthy
As Stan said to Ollie “now look at another fine mess you have got us into” or WTTE.
I believe at a very recent doortop presso by Labor Senators Buttler, Conroy and Wong a verbal molotove cocktail was lobbed in Abbott’s direction along the lines Sweden would build them here but cannot track down any info. As with everything this mob do they will get the unions if they close down every industry in the country and send us all back to the land
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Morning Bilko 🙂 yes mate, a hell of a fine mess 😡
And despite his promise that he’s heard and learnt, and is going to be more consultative and collegial 😯 his attack on the HRC report shows he hasn’t changed at all, and will only listen to what suits his own position! 😡
What a lying piece of crap! Grrr 😡
Cheers mate 🙂
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amen
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Truthy, if Abbott hasn`t made a “captains pick’ with the Japanese PM, i.e, done a deal, I`ll give the game away.
In question time today, “The Vampire”, Defence Minister Andrews said the GOVERNMENT has not made a deal with the Japanese re the submarine contract. Now that is a neat way of not lying to the Parliament. “Our Govt. hasn`t done a deal, BUT that doesn`t mean Idiot Boy hasn`t.”
Cheers.
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Hey Consider 🙂 Yes mate, we didn’t hear anything from Angela Merkel or anyone else that Abbott named in QT, about losing the contract 😯 only Shinzo Abe… 😉
And after his display of hubris and self aggrandisement today, in QT, it’s “Crystal clear” that the e only things that have changed with Abbott and his mendacious mob of miscreants, is the heightened level of aforementioned hubris and self aggrandisement! 😡
They are incapable of listening and learning… It’s not in their DNA 😯
Cheers mate, and please pass on my best to the lovely Considerette 🙂
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Hi again, Truthie. Well, I can’t find anything from the actual mouth of Shinzo about the subs, so maybe that particular shirtfront is still in the offing. Meanwhile, Tony has been horrible about the HRC and children in custody. One point chalked up for us, but as usual, at a terrible cost to the most vulnerable human beings. Also meanwhile – As you and many others have grasped, the free trade agreements are the scariest item on our agenda, after climate change, children in custody, and never mind Medicare, Uni fees.
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Hey Kate 🙂 yes I looked again this morning, but nothing 😯
I did see an article and report in the MSM about it, but that was when the issue of leadership was first raised last week, and have seen nothing since ❓ Mmmmm ❓
I thought it was SMH or The Age, but could be wrong… wish I’d bookmarked it, but sadly I didn’t 😦
Maybe its gone the same way as the original “No carbon tax” video 😯
Cheers 🙂
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Maybe, baby. But this one will be accessible elsewhere if it’s actualy happened. Let’s keep looking around and wait and see.
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Perhaps these links are useful…
There is a growing alarm over a minute-to-midnight deal struck between Tony Abbott and South Australian Liberals over submarines to secure votes in the leadership spill. >>
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/26251566/alarm-over-pms-submarine-deal/
Japan fears $25bn submarine deal at risk in Tony Abbott crisis >>
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/japan-fears-25bn-submarine-deal-at-risk-in-tony-abbott-crisis/story-e6frg8yo-1227211135322
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Hey SF 🙂 Thanks for the links 😎
Yes, they’ll be kicking themselves for trusting any thing Abbott says 🙄
But that’s where the trusty ISDS provisions come in 😯
Cheers 🙂
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You’re welcome.
It all goes back to the world of international finance which enables the financial elite to continue their monopoly, governments around the world have proven extremely reluctant to tax the financial elite properly — thus they are having to borrow — the problem with obtaining credit is that the creditor requires some form of collateral — the only collateral a government can offer its creditor comes in the form of its sovereignty, thus far this has never been returned yet this needs to be done or the cycle will never be broken.
The Greens appear to have some plan to get rid of all those ISDS, and that brings me to my issue with the Au Greens considering had they continued their alliance with Labor during the 2013 elections, there would be no LNP to include the ISDS for everything that they signed.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Labor negotiated to exclude the ISDS clause? ….even Howard before that objected to the ISDS clause.
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For example, http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/abbott-open-for-business-and-multinational-lawsuits/700/
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TS,
I was going to make a comment on this fuckwittery, but I am at a loss for words, so I’ll just say Faaarrrk!!
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Hey Olddavey 🙂
Mate, I’m with you… Faaarrrrk 😉
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Hi Truthie,i dont care what that crazy bastard and his brown shirts are up to in Canberra at the moment,im still celebrating Annastacia Palaszczuk victory and the demise of Newman,i will get back toAbbott next week. Another good piece by you. Cheers.
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Hey Brickbob 🙂 thanks mate 😀
Sorry it took me a while to reply, but it’s been one of those days 😦 and I’ve just got back to the computer 😯
Yeah mate, A great result for QLD 😀
Cheers 🙂
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Thruthy
Subgate has taken on a life of its own, this should be a lively week. If one looks at the mad monk’s cabinet it is filled with the lying rodents second stringers, After spending 6 yrs in their hammocks in sublime denial mode why is it strange that the only ideas rising are brainfarts from abbott the rest put their brains in deep freeze and thus missed the real world happenings during the Labor governments. Abbott still thinks the day dreaming populous voted his mob out now that mob are doing it again WHY?
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Morning Bilko 🙂 yes mate, but I think “lively” is an understatement 😯
Watching this mob is like watching the crew of the Titanic, shuffle the deck chairs… after the bloody boat’s sunk 🙄
Idiots all 😦
Cheers mate 🙂
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Why the silence of the lambs, one of the first things LNP did was to issue gag orders to all staff, none of them are allowed to speak to the media freely.
Food for search engine – Abbott issues gag orders 25 Sept 2013
http://www.afr.com/p/national/abbott_office_takes_control_of_ministers_kOrNDWvxfGRPUF4FEGzQPK
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/joe-hockey-issues-gag-order-on-liberald-mps-talking-to-parlimentary-budget-office/story-fnii5sdj-1226656534491
https://www.vice.com/en_au/read/tony-abbotts-gag-order-reflex
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Should that be rearranging the deckchairs on DAS (sub)Boat
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Maybe 😉 🙂
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It appears that no one really benefits from these deals as much as the financiers themselves do.
The entire deal and others are deliberately designed to create debt, exactly how will that debt be repaid and what collateral was used to satisfy the creditor ‽
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Since when do other countries leaders enter the public discourse on internal politics in Australia?
I’m under the impression that this happens all the time, by the public and politicians, so why not return the favor ?
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