Abbott? when there’s no barge pole, an opinion poll will do!

Abbott? when there’s no barge pole, an opinion poll will do!

So, what’s happening with these bloody polls?

The previous two poll cycles showed a massive boost to Abbott after months of trending up for Gillard and the ALP, to almost level pegging TPP.

Now the week before the first of the poll jumps, for Abbott, he made his first major speech for the year, announcing that the LNP would remove the carbon “tax” (which is working, and the threat of removal just adds uncertainty to the business sector), wind back pensions, take away the school kids bonus and take the tax free threshold from $18,200 back down to $6,000.

Most would assume that these announcements would be less popular than a fart in an elevator among pensioners, families and in fact most tax payers… but NO!    Rather his personal popularity jumped by (from memory), around 9%.

So the question is WHY!

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Vlad the impaler 9 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

I have been living in the electorate of Fisher, a safe LNP stronghold, held for many years by Peter Slipper.

Many times I have made the point that, here in Fisher, they would elect Vlad the Impaler if he was endorsed by the LNP, as they are so rusted on.

The reason that I am relating this is because since moving here around 15 years ago, I have been polled twice in national polling and two to three times in QLD polling.   Now maybe that’s just coincidence, but I have heard many in safe Labor seats complain that they have never been polled?

So what is there that can affect the outcome of polls?

For starters, we know that these polls are taken on landlines, excluding a large percentage of the younger demographic.  Most of the younger generations that we know only use mobiles.

When you consider news papers like The Australian, or in fact any of the tabloid papers that have turned lies, spin and misrepresentation into an art form, it’s not too much of a stretch of the imagination to think that they could manipulate the polls, by the questions that they ask and the postcodes that they target. There has been much discussion about the questions asked, so lets look at the other option.

Now for instance, five minutes research on google tells me that the the electorate of Benelong, has phone numbers with the Sydney prefixes   9871    9847   9638   9427, so if you wanted to get a poll that had a strong LNP bias all you would have to do is to provide a list of prefixes that you want them to ring.

For someone like Murdoch, or that other paragon of virtue Rinehart, how hard would it be?

And just this week we see a jump of 6% in the PM’s personal ratings after two weeks of speculation about K Rudd’s comeback, even though he has denied it strenuously. And lets face it, if the preferred ALP leader, as endorsed by the rabid right, is K Rudd, and we can safely assume that they don’t have the best interests of the ALP at heart, then why are we even discussing it?

Now maybe this was simply payback for the PM taking away months of speculation about the election date and the resulting plethora of front pages that they have lost as a result?  Or maybe these last couple were rogue polls, and the latest is the inevitable correction?   Or maybe there is something more sinister going on, like an attempt at destabilisation of government through manipulation of the people via the MSM, and the polls?

Many right whingers will tell you that the influence of the polls is overrated, and only time will tell how accurate and influential these polls are.  But you only have to look at the effect on the news cycle of these polls and the ensuing speculation to realise that, whether media beat up, or genuine speculation, the destabilising effect certainly plays right into the hands of the rabid right.

So the question remains, if you don’t have a barge pole with which to shove Abbott over the line, will an opinion poll do the job?

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Rupert Murdoch, practicing puppet master! (Photo credit: World Economic Forum)

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29 Responses to Abbott? when there’s no barge pole, an opinion poll will do!

  1. cornlegend says:

    Truthseeker,
    My electorate is a “safe” Labor seat [varies between 61% recently to 70+% in the past]
    I, nor my family or friends, to my knowledge, have EVER been polled.
    Worrying part is, my missus, a keen bingo player at the local Bowling club, continually comes home, disgusted by the anti Gillard rantings she hears from the seniors and the mums that attend.
    Almost always, their complaints against Julia correspond to the latest News LTD or A Current Affair biase.
    Continual “brain washing techniques ” sure have an effect.
    These people are working class, single parents and pensioners, the most affected , if Abbott gains power.
    Go Figure !

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      cornlegend, thanks for your comment 😀 , and yes those right wing nut jobs that tell us that the influence of the polls and the media is limited, are the same ones that, when told of legislation to monitor and apply penalties for breaching the guidelines, scream foul saying it’s a danger to our democracy 😯

      As Turnbull did after Conroy announced the new media legislation yesterday. 😀

      The truth is the greatest threat to our democracy is an Abbott opposition/Gov backed by Murdoch, Rinehart and Co. 👿

      Cheers 😀

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  2. cornlegend says:

    The more dangerous thing is A defacto Murdoch/Rinehart government ineptly led by Abbott

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      cornlegend, yes, that’s what I was alluding to 😀

      With them pulling his strings, the only thing that we can be sure of is that they will be better off, if that’s possible, and we will be much worse off, and that’s very possible 😯

      It’s a scary thought 😥

      Cheers 😀

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  3. deknarf says:

    They can be, and probably are, judiciously manipulated. I put most trust in the Morgan Poll and disregard the others as unworthy of consideration. The ABC’s Anthony Green is the political commentator I trust the most for a balanced, unbiased view and for his reliability in calling the polls! The classics are the SMH polls on their website which can be voted on as frequently as you wish. Just relog on and vote, as they say ‘often’!

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      deknarf, thanks for your comment 😀

      Yes, that was the point, that polls aren’t that hard to manipulate from within, and when you see what Murdoch was prepared to allow/stoop to in the UK, and how Howard manipulated their ABC by the appointment of Mark Scott, insider plants or managerial control is a relatively simple matter. 😯

      Web polls are very easy to manipulate by staffers/trolls manning the computers>

      Cheers 😀

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  4. Fed up says:

    Why is the media having so many polls, if they believed polls cannot manipulate public opinion?

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  5. Truth Seeker says:

    Fed up, I would venture to suggest that they know exactly how influential polls ca be, and even if it’s not the polls, the ensuing headlines can manipulate public opinion 😯

    Cheers 😀

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  6. cooeerup says:

    I hear what you’re saying, but the polls in WA under-represented the swing away from Labor, and the Greens. We can’t presume the polls are wrong based on anectodal evidence. I like the polling guys that’s on Insiders on Sunday mornings. He aggregates them all so the results are more balanced imho

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  7. Truth Seeker says:

    cooeerup, welcome to my site, and thanks for your comment 😀

    The figures that I heard was a swing away from the ALP of 2.3%, and a swing away from the Greens of something like 11%.

    The swing against the ALP is consistent with a normal swing against an opposition of a first term government.

    As far as polls are concerned, the ones closer to an election should be closer than the ones six months out, but my point was more about how easy it is if they want to portray a particular side in a negative light; losers versus winners.

    Cheers 😀

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  8. cornlegend says:

    If anyone would like to sign the petition regarding the Telegraph article on Steven Conroy, the link is http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/australian-press-council-prosecute-the-daily-telegraph

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  9. Truth Seeker says:

    cornlegend, thanks for the link 😀

    Signed

    Cheers 😀

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  10. cornlegend says:

    any chance you can put this phot on you site

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  11. Fed up says:

    Is it HTTP Sometimes extra letter. Just change.

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  12. cornlegend says:

    Truthy, It was the wrong picture.
    I posted a link at IA under “Freedom of speech is not the freedom to oppress”

    Its the one with Rinehart,Murdoch and scum transposed

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      cornlegend, the link seems to go back to the same photo. i did find a similar on of the scum you referred to but facebook links don’t seem to work, as I can’t get them up. 😦
      Sorry, I have tried 😥

      Cheers 😀

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  13. cornlegend says:

    just checked ,this link works

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  14. Fed up says:

    TS. https:/.. take that “s” out/ hppt:/

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  15. Anne Milligan says:

    Truth Seeker
    It is obvious that the Polling is deceitful. They, the pollsters are definitely asking mostly in Liberal areas. Murdoch and abbott have corrupted this Country and the stupid ones among us believe them.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Anne, welcome, and thanks for your comment 😀

      Yes it certainly looks that way, and as I said, it’s not hard to manipulate the results 😯

      The sad thing is that we are being sold out for the sake of the moguls making even more money at the cost to our democracy and way of life. 👿

      Cheers 🙂 😀

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  16. khtagh says:

    TS

    I agree the polls definitely manipulated, it is all about mob run, pack mentality. Whip up decent & hope the majority join in so as to be in the ‘mob’. We all saw this when we were in school, trouble is Abbott never left school, he is still nothing more than a frustrated schoolboy bully.

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  17. Fed up says:

    And is incapable of growing up.

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  18. khtagh says:

    Fed up

    Yes he is still running in student politic mode, seeing he is not held to account by the MSM he thinks it works. September 14 a rude awakening awaits when he finds out it does not!!.

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