There’s no joy in saying; “We told you so!”

There’s no joy in saying; “We told you so!”Abbott and hockey1

All the while Abbott was pushing his slogans, and calling Julia Gillard a liar, many 5th estate sites, mine included, have been trying to tell Australia that Abbott and the LNP were the real liars, but sadly Australia didn’t listen.

Well now we are seeing the truth and consequences of what we were sold by the lying Murdoch and his News Limited propaganda machine, and the rest of the MSM.   👿

They were pretty much all complicit in the FRAUD that was perpetrated upon this country, and although some are now trying to reinvent themselves as “Balanced” they must be held to account!

So I have some simple messages to the parties involved:

To Murdoch and News Limited… “GO TO HELL!”

To Abbott and the LNP… “You are a pathological LIAR, running a party of LIARS, who has broken your contract with Australia, and you MUST GO!

To the ALP, The Greens, P U P and independents… “BLOCK SUPPLY NOW!”

To Australia…There’s no joy in saying; “We told you so!”

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56 Responses to There’s no joy in saying; “We told you so!”

  1. Kate Ahearne says:

    I see you’re angry, Truthie. Only appropriate way to feel! I just posted this on the Lounge, and thought I might as well pop it here as well. It’s my response to Tim Colebatch this morning.
    Thanks, Tim. I notice that you don’t mention that Australia’s debt to GDP ratio is very low compared to other OECD countries. Of the 31 member nations, the only countries whose ratio of debt to GDP is lower than ours are are Estonia, Korea, Luxembourg and Norway. These are the OECD’s own most recent figures, November 2013. http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/economics/government-debt_gov-debt-table-en So how can this vicious Budget be economically responsible?
    I also notice that you don’t mention the ludicrous $20 billion gold-plated best-in-the-whole-world medical research whatsit to which all those co-payments will go. What consolation is there in a possible cure for cancer for the person suffering from cancer right now, and unable to make the co-payments at doctor or chemist? I waited in vain last night for the howls of derision, but maybe we’re all just gob-smacked and nobody wants to be the first to laugh out loud at the Emperor’s new medical research institute? http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/05/13/abbott-smashes-promises-like-greek-plates/

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    • bighead1883 says:

      Hi Kate,you cute when you angry 😉

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      • Kate Ahearne says:

        Hey Biggie, I’m always cute – in a rolypoly grandma sort of way!

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        • Caz2 says:

          Hi Kate I am another roily poly grandmother who is still hoping that my adult son will one day have a permanent job, one that lasts more than a year or two. He will have insufficient super to retire on. At least when I die he will have an inheritance providing the government doesn’t take my house to provide me with nursing home care

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Morning Kate, 😀 and it’s good to see you firing up, 😉 cos we all need to show OUR outrage! 😡

      And Yes, I’m bloody livid, and there will be many howls of outrage from this little black duck over the next few days. 😯

      And I must be angry, cos I’ve already put up two post (1 yesterday, and 1 this morning), and I’ve already got another started and ideas for a couple more 😯 I’ve just got to work out which one should come next? 🙄

      Cheers Kate 😀

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  2. bighead1883 says:

    BUT WE TOLD YOU SO and you did not listen
    You claim to be worldly and all knowing
    You saw it on TV and you saw it with Bolt
    You shook your head at the Labor lot
    And now you have what only you deserve
    But you fracken stupid suppository ar$eholes
    Have blessed us with your wisdom
    LIBTARDS

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  3. sandrasearle says:

    I’m just too angry to make a sensible comment. All I want for all of the opposition is to block supply (all of it) & force the totally socially irresponsible government that are in power at the moment into a DD. What they have done is to hurt everyone needlessly. What they haven’t done is plan to increase revenue to balance expenditure. Oh but maybe they have. I reckon they are just sneaky enough to force the states to grovel to the govt. for health & education & when that doesn’t work the states will come up with the idea that they will have to put up the GST!
    We just cannot wait until the next election – we need to get rid of this government NOW!

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  4. Fed up says:

    More money, for medical research, while taking another 111 million out of the CSIRO, as well as other bodies.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Yes, Liars and hypocrites all 😯

      And the poorest, oldest and most vulnerable are expected to put their health, budget and lives on the line, so that some future generation might benefit from their sacrifices.

      So don’t despair all you old, sick and feeble, cos freezing in winter, and going without food, paying bills, medications and necessary medical attention, is good for the soul! 😯

      Cheers 😡

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  5. melaine says:

    I find myself having difficulty putting my thoughts into words… a first for me…
    I am NOT surprised by anything in this ‘fudge it’…
    I do have a question tho’… where are the plans/provisions for building the future of the country? Did I miss that bit??

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Morning Mel 🙂 and even though there are major surprises for those that voted for a “No surprises, no excuses, Adult” government, the excuses are now coming fast and furious, but for us that bothered to think for ourselves, and look past the LTD News headlines, we are not surprised! 🙄

      No you didn’t miss anything… In true Abbott tradition, there is no plan 😯

      Cheers 😡

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    • Caz2 says:

      I don’t have any problem putting my thoughts into words. WHERE ARE THE F….. Cking JOBS?

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  6. Caz2 says:

    If freezing the politicians’ pay is their contribution to the heavy lifting, the they are a bunch of weaklings. Maybe they should throw away the cigars, cut out the business lunches, get out of their commonwealth cars and start walking, so that they can do their share of the heavy lifting like the pensioners have to.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Caz2, thanks for your comment 😎 and yes Abbott says it’ll cost him around $6500.00, which means Hockey could have one donor to lunch and get that back three times over, 😯 And I’m sure Abbott could do as well if not better, and that’s without overloading the expenses. 😯

      Bastards all!

      Cheers 😡

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    • Kate Ahearne says:

      And further to the ‘heavy lifting’ $7 for a doctor visit will be about as heavy as a feather to anyone with plenty of money, but to one of those young kids living on thin air while learning ‘cos they sure aren’t earning, it’ll feel like lifting a ton of bricks.

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      • Truth Seeker says:

        My contacts in the health industry have been hearing for weeks from patients telling them that they will not be able to go to the doctors! So the options are they miss out on medications and doctors appointments, call an ambulance for something that could and should be dealt with by the GP, or wait until they are sick enough to go to hospital or the morgue! 😯

        Cheers 😡

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        • Kate Ahearne says:

          I can’t help hoping that Abbott and Hockey have completely misread the situation – not only the voters, but the parliament and the Senate, not to mention their own Premiers. As you say, Truthie, Block Supply NOW!

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  7. Truth Seeker says:

    And here’s an interesting article about Marty’s latest statement, pointing to the the “Failed” stop the boats policy, and possible “Human rights abuse” 😯

    http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/551960/20140509/australia-indonesia-asylum-seeker.htm#.U3LTDihSaFU

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  8. diannaart says:

    Well, at least no-one is claiming to be surprised – Abbott did promise “no surprises” 1 out of (insert number of promises pre election here) ain’t bad. Completely lived up to all of our expectations and pre-budget leaks.

    😛

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  9. consider says:

    I know I`m repeating myself, but until the bogans start to really suffer, nothing will change their votes.

    This sham of a budget is the start. Next shock for them will be the blackmail of the States by the Feds. to take effect when the States start screaming for more funds and want the GST increased, and of course Abbott and Co. will be sitting back sucking on their cigars, saying don`t blame us, it`s the States fault.

    Credit to Sarah Ferguson on 7.30 last night for pulling Hockey into line and making him admit that promises were broken, and wouldn`t let him prattle on with his usual rubbish about “it`s all for the good of the country”.

    Maintain the rage!!!!!!!!!

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Consider, hey mate 🙂

      Yes, hockey’s “Fudge-it” is a complete farce based on a pack of lies 😯

      I saw Sarah last night, and I like her much more than Sales 😉 so Sales had better watch out 😀

      “Block supply NOW!”

      Cheers 😡

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    • diannaart says:

      Bogans are never surprised – it is not in their nature, they just get angry without knowing why.

      😛

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  10. Jim says:

    Well said Truthy and peoples.
    As Biggy said, WA and Queensland are well set up onto bad paths. Corporate , elitist paths of overbearance and sadistics and an artificial fast pace of life and market turnover for heights.
    Much of these matters were made up in earlier days of the corrupt spying regime and when overempowerment was in glee of frothing windfall, indulgence and unworldly prospects.
    Newmans directions are fingerprints of an old and planned agenda. They have trouble that matters have been exposed but still run the many courses totally ignoring the people with their agendas out in the open.
    The infrastructure to come is for heights fruition and bountys and monopolies.
    The whole key to foundations is housing of which a monopolistic course is set as done under liberal and labour pre boom. Again many will be crippled to sell and many more at the mercy of the rental monopoly which is going to grow in desperation under monopoly.
    Too much to say.
    Well said truthy.
    My own opinion is that the snake behind all is still going to throw and manipulate public behind Labour for its corporate presedential system. Which is not the peoples or the system we need and deserve. These matters and agendas are for a minorities thriving and maintenance and all paying for it. With our lives. Just a warning. Labours actions will tell all.
    Americans mostly call MSM psy ops. And they can go to hell as Truthy said.

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  11. orangefox says:

    Interesting how all these calls to block supply is gaining momentum.
    About six months ago this approach was being called for on IA and some other sites by a few persons including myself.
    It was view with suspicion at the time.
    Now it’s being called for even on the mainstream sites.
    Truthy, the ALP will not block supply. They have stated this as a principle of theirs.
    If bills are rejected several times then the government has the option of a DD but we know Abbott would never take that option.
    I don’t think the Greens would block supply either.
    The only party that might is PUP.
    Palmer is a wild card and may consider it to be a tactical move to boost his support. We have to remember Clive is aiming to be PM.
    Although I am still evaluating Clive, I do think he has some good policies as well as se bad ones. The question for me is if his bad policies are because of ignorance or an ulterior motive.
    The fact that he believes in conspiracy theories indicates to me that he has an open mind. So there is hope he may be better than some are painting him.
    If we want better government I maintain we need to get away from the two party monopoly.
    Regards.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Orangefox, thanks for your comment 😎

      I know that’s the ALP position, and principles are all well and good, but when you’re dealing with a government ( 🙄 ) that has NO PRINCIPLES, then you either sit back and in effect become complicit in the damage that they do, or you get some balls and modify your approach.

      They have broken, or are blatantly attempting to break enough promises now to constitute fraud if they were company directors.

      And my point is that the opposition need to carefully consider ALL options, including blocking supply if that is what the R & F tell them to do!

      And if enough people call for it, the cross benches should also listen, or ignore it at their peril. 😉

      All systems have their problems, and I’m not sure that having a parliament full of smaller party’s and independents will result in any better form of governing? 😉

      I think we just need to clean up the major party’s, and get them back to their core values (Or lack thereof?) 😯

      Cheers 😀

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      • orangefox says:

        Having more independents and smaller parties will make it harder for corruption to take hold. What we have now is not good.
        Germany is an example of small party representation and it works well there.

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      • Jim says:

        A losing game Truthy and means a big stall while present agendas are set in stone by the day. Every second heights scratch and claw for that. The capability of a big stick would help the people. But the big truth of your statement is the upheaval and corruption capable on small parties or any person or party while this country is coursed by marauding corpirates and institutions. Especially while under heights MSM choke hold and not just whst they are capable of on our services.

        The unions of our heights and their controls on our protections, laws, intelligence services corrupted to their rackets, media , is the ill. Ours are wicked when fighting for our lives, theirs are something forced on us all to celebrate in their joy and glee of their honourable finery and comfort.
        They need work choices applied onto them by the people and the people wouldnt need unions to fight our corrupted powers.

        In it all and being sold is “Everything is alright, it’s a new day, we’ve changed, rejoice and cement our way of life and plunders on yourselves with our president.
        The past is not the past and we are fools that step into tomorrow without yesterdays.
        Glazed eyes a must.

        All parties have cemented and helped, putting in bits and pieces of our woes and heights system, not the peoples.
        Dont know if we are going to win.

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    • consider says:

      Orangefox, it all comes down to the number of votes in the Senate to vote anything down. Clive Palmer`s party do not have the numbers on its own to block supply.
      Let`s hope that the ALP show some guts and do a deal with the Greens and PUP and bring this dangerous mob down .
      Cheers.

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    • consider says:

      Orangefox could you imagine our parliament being made up of all indepedents?
      To get anything through it would be like trying to round up a herd of cats.
      Personally I don`t like the thought of our countries future being in the hands of some of the minor groups currently in the Senate either.

      If we were lucky enough to have all independents of the calibre of Rob Oakeshott and Tony Windsor, fair enough. otherwise no chance.
      Cheers

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  12. orangefox says:

    I forgot to mention that the chances the $7.00 doctors co-payment bill is passed by the new senate ‘as is’ is nil.
    I expect that as a minimum the 10 free per year will be increased.
    I am more concerned with a broadening of the GST base.
    Calls to have food, health and education included should be rejected outright.
    This means an increase to 15% on the present arrangements is likely.
    Unless someone is going to get tough on the miners or crack down on the tax rorts such as negative gearing or superannuation tax free thresholds, then the GST increase is inevitable.
    The way this government went about cutting state health and education funding means that they can claim the states, some of which are Labor (more to follow) are responsible for the GST increase. Most importantly they can point out that Labor supports an increase.
    Clever bastards.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      For me, it’s not so much about what does or doesn’t get passed, at this point, but the fact that not only did they blatantly lie to the electorate — As Clive said, if he lied like that as a company director, he’d be facing jail! — and then continue to deny that you lied, which in itself is just another lie 😯 and proof positive that they have nothing but contempt for us, treating us like fools.

      SA has already called his bluff about the GST, and he needs all the states to agree, which I doubt they will, as even the LNP states know that they will be held responsible electorally for Abbott’s blackmail. 😉

      Cheers 😀

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    • Jim says:

      What is needed is regulation not a broad based tax. Taxes were once used to control psychotics and sadistic money hunters. They want to live above and maraud the people whole to do it, there is a cost for the privelage of a return to the people and a regulation of the marauding. The broad based tax never comes back to the people. A minority handles it and dishes it out. In these days to monopolies who’ve left few choices. All our eggs in one basket. Wealth, as figures show are conspired and funnelled to concentrations and increasingly by the day by industries. As our taxes and their dispersal. There must be roads etc but that is not wealth to the people but evil necessities. Heights overstuffed contracters and developer stacked councils just destroy everything and abominate town planning in a pig fest. Pioners made reserves, preserved environmental jewels and special places and patches of trees etc for good reasons that the average cement, bitumen and telegraph pole idiot couldnt even comprehend. They are demolished .
      We are actually triple paying for all and any services we get.
      Can you picture the wealth and taxes generated in the years since the conspired boom and house and rent monopoly? Excuse the french but where the fuck is it?
      We are surely the greatest imbeciles and no wonder our parliament is full of smug laughter with a nation of such soft touches and idiots above who think nothing of bashing for a bit more to cover their failures and uselessness and comfort.

      After the week i’ve had on the net and my days since Anzac day , this landed on me yesterday. My daughter is a traffic stopper , cars screech to a halt and try and talk to her, she gets yelled at walking down the street from two blocks away and has to be careful where she goes in public. She has had a bad time with it actually and has been a mess from approaches. She’s worked with medical professors etc and a doctor was trying to break the ice with her and comes out with in his jolly spiel ” I’m actually just a glorified butcher , true, but fuck , the money’s good!”
      All this to the grandaughter of Peter James Paterson and relayed to his son. I said, you tell him that your father couldnt have said it any better.
      Earn more pay more , the concentrations and rogue art of making them are killing us.

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  13. Fed up says:

    Sadly, it is another myth, that the states have to agree to any change to the GST. It is a federal tax, they can change it at whim.

    I an more interested in the feds obligation to raise income tax on behalf of the states. This is the agreement made back in 1941, when the states conceded their taxing powers to the federal government. Today it is impossible to return to that time. It would not work for states to all have different income taxes running. We are now a nation, not a group of states and territories.

    Each government should be responsible for raising the money they spend. GST is a regressive tax.

    Maybe we should look at how much of the money, the feds distributed on their behalf from the income tax, has became tied grants. This could be where some of the trouble lies.

    Whether Pyne, Abbott and Abbott like it or not, they states are entitled to their share of income taxes raised.

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    • bighead1883 says:

      In the US the States can impose their own VAT,State Taxes {GST} on top of and even exclusive of Federal Taxes.
      These measures are encouraged by ALEC as they encourage user pays and has no pressure on the Corporations for extra taxes to fund their destruction of publicly own infrastructure [roads,bridges etc]
      The IPA will be pushing hard for this and the Feds will create legislation via the Brandis Gestapo.

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    • Jim says:

      Also heights and the one snake above move agendas and conveniently stand mute with hands tied as an American system is put in play.
      The feds say , you’ll have to see Newman about denistry, the 400 dollar pliers and tooth pullers say you’ll have to see Newman about that, Newman says you’ll have to see the feds about that. The matter is across the board in corporate movements and neo ethic.
      If you try to play the politics of it you will find the head leads back to snake holding its tail in its mouth. And on it goes. It is the ethic that must be removed.

      The circumstances on welfare are already dire, people are dying , stressed, suiciding, stting in rooms and cars in states of minds that only lead to sickness. Mind you govt ethic for remedy is worse than the circumstance. This budget wants to take all further into what has been established while above is far already into glee and rapture.

      The future in it for other than those who set up and cashed in on the boom is high competition, driving screwed up war pace of life and a big turnover of housing, mainly on estsblished Australians. The budget will turn over houses of the lower and middle class, aged, battlers , young couples etc. One slip up, health matter, your gone. Falling to foreign investing and cherry picking of real estate. The releasing of housing and land is already planned for a greater monopoly. At the end of it is pummelled Australians, condensation of profit and growth to the monopoly corpirates and heights and very happy rich foreigners deciding what to do with our magic places, communities and aesthetic views. The corpirates will fill councils increasingly and the “I’m a christian ” right wing brutal nut jobs as the racketeering liberal hearts and business class have done nation wide and under powers coursing countries protections.
      The strain of monopolised profiteering will condense to heights enabling more of the same and on all our environments, – nature, community, human, way of life and direction.
      Anyone who doesnt indulge in the joy of those above and their success’s will be an enemy and recaltricant, everyone below them is already a bludger in the headstart.

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      • Jim says:

        The ABC guy interviewing Clive, brushed off as far fetched, Clives remark of slavery and servitude. I beg to differ. We are already into The Austwich US system and supposed to be glazed eyed of its non existence.

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  14. Fed up says:

    As th4e senate is supposed to be a states house. Yes, they represent the states. Maybe they have a duty to now vote on behalf of the states they represent.

    PS. I know it is a long time, they thought that way. They vote on behalf of the party.

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  15. Fed up says:

    So Mr Hockey does not know what all the fuss is about. He believes the seven dollars is not much money.

    Shorten ABC 24

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Fed up, thanks for your comments 😎 and that’s because it’s not much money for him! 😯

      Cheers 😀

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      • consider says:

        Yes Truthy, this morning on AM I heard Hockey saying that the $7 co-payment (tax) is only one third of the price of a packet of cigarettes and half the price of a middy of beer.

        So all those drunken cigar-chomping mothers out there, when your kids get crook and need a visit to the Dr`s, wake up to yourselves and lay off attacking poor old Joe. He really does care you know. NOT.
        Cheers.

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  16. consider says:

    Bloody Hell, I`ve just heard Shorten on 24 say, in answer to a question, would he like to have an early election because of Abbotts budget, and he said NO, what I want Tony Abbott to do is to re-hash the budget and continue governing.

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    • Truth Seeker says:

      Morning mate 😀

      Hockey is an incompetent fool, 😯 , and when I heard Shorten say that, I thought; he is too… WTF?

      we are governed by MORONS! 😯

      Cheers 😀

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      • orangefox says:

        Truthseeker,
        I hope you will wake up soon and realize that the present Labor party has no guts, is a lost cause, and the situation will not change anytime soon.
        It is time to move on and look elsewhere.
        To rid Labor of the useless elements would take years. We don’t have that time.
        Better to build something new.
        Start checking other independents or minor parties out.

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  17. Kate Ahearne says:

    Clive – refuse. Block the Budget Now. While everyone else is pfaffing around, just say no.

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  18. Fed up says:

    No, we need Abbott kept on the hook, he has created a little longer. MPI Health. Dutton now up. First time in seven years, that I have heard him talk about health. Shame is, it is more about putting the boot into Gillard.

    He did say this morning, bilk billing has noit been touched. Another lie. I believe, listening to the AMA rep, that those who continue to bulk bill will now get 25% less than they do now,. Truth ism no doctor will be able to9 bulk bill.

    Dutton just said, one cannot have a universal health care for free. Sorry Mr, Dutton, it has never been free. Patients have always contributed. If money is needed, put up the levy. Cut out rebates to private funds.,

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  19. Fed up says:

    Mr Dutton, how does taking five dollars when one visits the doctor, transferring it to your new so called research fund, fix up the so called Medicare unsustainability.

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    • Jim says:

      Also the doctors have already been playing their part throwing disabled on newstart and just denying pensioning outright to the eligble.
      Compo insurance did it for decades , the dole is not compensation for work injuries.
      Heights have already cleaned out disability many times over the last 15 years and keeps getting more carniverous and brutal with each maraud .
      A thing to consider is the weight and power and monetary forcings already applied, held, sold through MSM and politics is now wanting the whole onslaught through Abbott.
      So the game is he’s a hero whatever way he goes.
      He wins the true colour of his spit mockingly hitting the people as he goes off into hero corpirate and institution pension ground or overpaid career. He loses and he is the greatest humanitarian and foxy politician born.
      And the rat will pull the right pose whatever may come because it’s all about him, always has been.
      So will Labour be happy valiantly beating Abbott in scripted and theatric poses back right to where we already stand in the extents of pain and racket they both already hold us in and stolen boom?
      The snake behind both doesnt want to give up any ground of intrusion into its market forcings and crippling for profitability and pace of life on their public resource treadmills.
      Abbotts hanging himself and Bills reaping while he hopsctoches around finding a place to stand and pose from.
      Heights just want more of what they’ve thugged and taken already.
      The doctor surcharge is like what is said of owning a yacht, a bloody big hole in the water to throw money into.
      They will not stop there. As the plunderings and intrusions of the boom and set up of it,
      they will and do just want more as excess becomes bad habit and expectation.

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  20. Fed up says:

    Combet now on Pink Batts.

    http://rcommedia.com.au/hiprc/live/

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  21. Fed up says:

    Abbott, out in western Sydney to talk but roads. No one interested. Mr Baird seem to be centre of interest. Abbott stood meekly beside him believe Abbott intends to roam the country, selling amazing budget.

    Comet much more interesting. Not showing much toleration for some of the questions. Sadly we had to wait to last day, for this to occurred. “There s also expectation and obligation for those in he community to respect and obey the law.

    Garrett also was expressed are thoughts.

    What is clar from these hearings, there is need for much more regulations in industry, not less, abbot believes. How many lives will be lost, by Abbott repealing all business regulations????????

    Mr Garrett did the right thing, The businesses that continued to use metal staples did the wrong thing. .

    Mr Combet is now being addressed witness. A ply to put Combet in his place. This practice was condemned yesterday, hen used o Rudd. Had to go back, addressing by name.

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